Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
Well let me clarify then.... Those of us who want Barkley to succeed, and are actually supportive of our players. We have 2 types of fan and loads of them plague this forum. The ones who only post negatively all the time probably expect him to be perfect. There is then a vast majority who fall in to the second category who want the players to succeed and have different expectations from him.
I disagree that i've contradicted myself though. You said you "won't criticise young players" and I think that's the wrong mentality to have. It's also why he regressed as a player after 10 good games at the start of last season because that attitude from Martinez indulged him, and allowed him to be lazy and not put in 100% effort. When playing poorly he could have tried harder off the ball. But a combination of not wanting to, and Martinez telling him it was OK, has hindered his development and allowed the fans to get on his back.
Saying he has only had 2 poor games is ridiculous as well, he's had loads. And your comment about being instructed to not track back for 3 years as if that's acceptable, and the fact that he never openly challenged that ridiculous flaw in managerial judgement from Martinez is why he is not at the level a lot were expecting him to be at this stage in his career.
Again though, he has a lot of top class attributes to his game, and they are a huge positive to the team. Some of his touches and play on the ball on Tuesday were top class.
Ok, what we do as fans and what the manager does are mutually exclusive.
Koeman has to be the teacher/Boss and be strict as its his job, we support the players and the team.
Its not ridiculous, its true. He has been no worse than older pro's that have not had any criticism.
Ross was doing what Martinez wanted, and if it has stalled his progression then its Bobbys fault. Had Ross made a big sing and dance and demanded a move, fans would have gone mad at him for that too!!!
We have a compulsion to obsess over the things young players cant do, rather than when they can do, in this country.
I've said it before, I get more stick from other fans about how we treat Ross more than any other thing.