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2017/18 Ross Barkley

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If that's the real reason, why are you so angry about it?

It probably isn't like but, curious as to why your argument has changed?

Haven't changed my argument - it's a rumour going round - may be true, may be horse manure.

You keep making out like Barkley has been hard done by, the club/manager/fans treating him like dirt. "One of our own" etc etc.

He turned down a contract offer. Bye Ross. :bye:
 
What an absolutely bizarre conclusion you have come to there from what I have written about this subject.

Seriously mate, try reading what people write instead of living in a non moveable thought bubble.

The problem being that I didn't say it was all Koemans fault. Yet, you seem to think he has no part in this sad affair at all.
Thinking the non moveable thought bubble is where your habitat.
 
The problem being that I didn't say it was all Koemans fault. Yet, you seem to think he has no part in this sad affair at all.
Thinking the non moveable thought bubble is where your habitat.

I said Koeman couldn't win either way and you agreed and then came out with -

"In your world, everything seems nice and fluffy apart from the evil Ross but, Koeman is there to save us all"

Point me now to one statement I made which backs up that theory.

No skirting around it, show me EXACTLY where anything I wrote could lead you to that conclusion.
 
I said Koeman couldn't win either way and you agreed and then came out with -

"In your world, everything seems nice and fluffy apart from the evil Ross but, Koeman is there to save us all"

Point me now to one statement I made which backs up that theory.

No skirting around it, show me EXACTLY where anything I wrote could lead you to that conclusion.

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Haven't changed my argument - it's a rumour going round - may be true, may be horse manure.

You keep making out like Barkley has been hard done by, the club/manager/fans treating him like dirt. "One of our own" etc etc.

He turned down a contract offer. Bye Ross. :bye:




I said Koeman couldn't win either way and you agreed and then came out with -

"In your world, everything seems nice and fluffy apart from the evil Ross but, Koeman is there to save us all"

Point me now to one statement I made which backs up that theory.

No skirting around it, show me EXACTLY where anything I wrote could lead you to that conclusion.

I mean I'm pretty bored of this but, don't want to skirt around the issue so..
What do want me to repond to?
The quote that you replied to, or the quote that you emboldened in your reply?
Or both, I'm easy?
 
Ok, Koeman has handled the situation with Ross badly. Plenty of other managers have been able to hold their tongue, when dealing with players they don't particularly like/want etc. Ronald even admitted that he went too far when talking about him, so I don't see why this isn't accepted?

The second bit, where you seemed to get a bit tetchy when asking for my response, is there to see surely? However, Ron will save us all because..

He's doing that pretty well mate, got us back into europe in his first season and is having to rebuild with our top scorer leaving and our once most creative player not wanting to sign a contract and stay.

Get behind him, when you get through the crap he is actually doing a decent job.

It's going to be difficult for us but, hopefully it's all good (honestly, we are still at least 2 starting players short of where we should be with the money spent, just my opinion though so, as you don't like it you can rest easy).
 
Ross should of used RK's comments as motivation. Was always taught that once your coach/manager stops talking about you or stops talking to you then that's when you should worry not the other way around. If you can't take criticism then bye.
 

In your world, everything seems nice and fluffy apart from the evil Ross but, Koeman is there to save us all.
Until, he moves to Barca.
Personally, don't mind that because we will be doing well but, again we will watch 'one of our own' play their best footy for another team.

If Koeman moves to Barca directly from us it's because we're in the CL or have won several trophies.

I don't care. Ross stopped being 'one of our own' when he declined the new deal - which is one of the best ever offered to an Everton player.

Best of luck to him, and he has every right to make that decision, but the fact now is it's time to move on.
 
Ok, Koeman has handled the situation with Ross badly. Plenty of other managers have been able to hold their tongue, when dealing with players they don't particularly like/want etc. Ronald even admitted that he went too far when talking about him, so I don't see why this isn't accepted?

The second bit, where you seemed to get a bit tetchy when asking for my response, is there to see surely? However, Ron will save us all because..



It's going to be difficult for us but, hopefully it's all good (honestly, we are still at least 2 starting players short of where we should be with the money spent, just my opinion though so, as you don't like it you can rest easy).

Look at Koeman's two seasons at Saints.

Look who he lost in those transfer windows.

Look where they finished.
 
Koeman can't really win, you're right, for a couple of reasons I think..
He did (noone can logically disagree with this), go out of his way to talk about Ross, a lot, in comparison to others.
The 'board' should have had the contract done and dusted before Koeman arrived. Like they did with Gibson and Koeman agreed to the contract extension for him, even though (as proved later), he wasn't part of his plans.

This should've been handled better.

Wrong...Koeman didn't go out of his way to talk about Barkley. He answered questions honestly,and no more. If Koeman had avoided answering those direct questions, THAT would lead to criticism of the manager...but he didn't...he simply answered questions from the media.
 

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