Sam Allardyce

[Eggsyblueskin]

I don't need to give Allardyce time to see what he can do ,he's been managing in the top league for over a thousand games now and I think I have fairly good idea of his capabilities and style of football. I have never looked at any side he has managed with envy.
Even when he had a Bolton side crammed with talent like Okocha, Djorkaeff, and Campo he still played mediocre football, playing the channels with an isolated striker, Davies. I honestly believe the talent in that side made it relatively successful in spite of his mundane 'tactics'. A better manager could have made far more of that side.
His record reveals he is overwhelmingly a draw merchant, he generally always records more losses than wins and his football is dismal to watch. He is just Pulis with a big gob.
That is all I need to know about FatSam, thanks very much.

 

[Nymzee]

Utterly currently convinced he will still be here in August.

I’ve been saying this for ages.

 

[USABlue]

He's definitely better than Koeman, Martinez and Smith, which makes him the second best Everton manager of this millenium.

26 years in England as a manager and zero trophies, Martinez has one at least

 

[Saint Domingo]

26 years in England as a manager and zero trophies, Martinez has one at least

Both not good enough. To be successful we need to combine a quality manager with good players. We keep hiring terrible managers though then expect them to deliver success. At least Koeman had won something but he was a terrible appointment from an attitude perspective. The rest of our premier league appointments apart from Moyes and Royle have been terrible.

 

[USABlue]

Both not good enough. To be successful we need to combine a quality manager with good players. We keep hiring terrible managers though then expect them to deliver success. At least Koeman had won something but he was a terrible appointment from an attitude perspective. The rest of our premier league appointments apart from Moyes and Royle have been terrible.

Oh I definitely agree none of them have been good enough. Just disagree that Sam is better than Martinez.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Oh I definitely agree none of them have been good enough. Just disagree that Sam is better than Martinez.

Different shades of sh....Seriously though Sam will bore you into mid table safety and Martinez gives you a day or two of joy with the fear of relegation round you the rest of the time. It can’t just always be that choice for Evertonians. There are good managers out there, we need to look further than the premier league.

 

[BiggyRat]

Oh I definitely agree none of them have been good enough. Just disagree that Sam is better than Martinez.

It's only a matter of which one has the better delusions really.

 

[polish]

Why do we need to retain the same squad?

But anyway, pick a section, any section, then pick any name from any section, that manager is better than Sam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_association_football_managers

Our squad is not that bad. My opinion is we need to find someone like Maurizio Sarri (easy task then lol) - he'd basically took over the squad he inherited from Benitez and made them flying high.

He stated he's interested mostly in improving his players and any weaknesses they have will be train out of them on the football pitch. He's saying that's the job of the manager - improve the players you already have at your disposal, not buy a success.

The way he did it at Napoli is remarkable. He made Mertens (in his late 20's) one of the best strikers in Europe, unlock Insigne potential and made a beast out of Koulibaly.

 

[COYBL25]

The idea of "lets give him until Christmas" is what got us here in the first place. Managers don't typically move in the middle of a season and you are left with what is available. Who, of note, would even be available to come here in the middle of a season?

It's absolutely daft to think that he is the way forward. He's barely shown he is the right choice now ffs.

Plus by then his hoofball brand of football will be ingrained into the players and any new manager, would have to spend the remainder of the season reversing this.

No thanks.

 

[Boss_Rarkley]

Once he wins the derby the media will start patting us on the head - how it would be an amazing feat and championing him to stay on at the club

 

[Papa Shango]

Once he wins the derby the media will start patting us on the head - how it would be an amazing feat and championing him to stay on at the club

It would be an amazing feat.

Our derby record is an utter, utter disgrace for a club of our size.

 

[blueboy1945]

Quite a silly response your arguing to argue ha

Yes the fact is Sam is our manger at the time we have become safe ie his job is done. The point I was making was it’s not special. FFS anyone could of done it. It was never as dire as feared. But hey do what you will.

I’m not gonna thank him for classing this place down to best case draw lineups.

Tough times here we know but if you want to thank him be my guest. He is a bum and a gutless bum at that. Get your crayons out and send him a thank you note.

Stopped using crayons about 65 years ago mate! In all seriousness your argument makes no sense, Allardyce did the job, nobody else wanted it, but he left a comfortable retirement to come to Everton and had the guts to do so. He has completed the first part of what he was expected to do, nobody knows what will happen at the end of the season but I would be ok with giving him till the end of his contract.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

It would be an amazing feat.

Our derby record is an utter, utter disgrace for a club of our size.

For once, Sam saying that it's the players' fault and that the problem set in years ago will be 100% true when we get spanked all over the hallowed Goodison turf in two weeks. He could play the most attacking line up and get Ramos and Pique in as emergency centre backs and Salah would still score a hat trick and we'd end the game with a -6 goal difference.

 

[evertonarntwe]

Different shades of sh....Seriously though Sam will bore you into mid table safety and Martinez gives you a day or two of joy with the fear of relegation round you the rest of the time. It can’t just always be that choice for Evertonians. There are good managers out there, we need to look further than the premier league.

We've looked much more of a team fighting relegation this season than we did any any of Martinez's 3 seasons

 

[COYBL25]

Stopped using crayons about 65 years ago mate! In all seriousness your argument makes no sense, Allardyce did the job, nobody else wanted it, but he left a comfortable retirement to come to Everton and had the guts to do so. He has completed the first part of what he was expected to do, nobody knows what will happen at the end of the season but I would be ok with giving him till the end of his contract.

WTF.

I`ll give you 9 million reasons why he left his " comfortable retirement ".

As for the comment about " having the guts to do so " lollollollollollollollollollollollollol