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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Stopped using crayons about 65 years ago mate! In all seriousness your argument makes no sense, Allardyce did the job, nobody else wanted it, but he left a comfortable retirement to come to Everton and had the guts to do so. He has completed the first part of what he was expected to do, nobody knows what will happen at the end of the season but I would be ok with giving him till the end of his contract.
Are you happy with mediocre then, because that is what you will get with Sam in charge.

Beat the dross in the premier then lose against anyone top 6 and above.

It doesn't get any better than that with Sam trust me
 
Are you happy with mediocre then, because that is what you will get with Sam in charge.

Beat the dross in the premier then lose against anyone top 6 and above.

It doesn't get any better than that with Sam trust me
If he can, in his own words, master that (beat every team outside of the top six = 13 teams x 2 games each =78 points), then we'll surely be in the mix for Champions League at worst every season.

Problem is we only beat these teams about 80% at home and 5% away, so no 78 points for us.
 
I just don't understand people saying "a proper preseason and his own signings and we can see what Sam can do here" if it isn't a complete and utter windup.

Agree mate, the way some are going on you would think that before Allardyce came to us he was some sort of attack minded, free flowing football ,tactical genius of a manager, and should be given the chance of a pre-season, and money to spend to see what he can do with us.

Now here’s the thing, we know what type of manager Allardyce is, and apart from his time at Bolton his footy has always been the same, And after years of playing the same way he is hardly going to change. Also, we weren’t the only one’s who realised this,West Ham, and Newcastle fans wanted him out, and now the majority of Everton fans want him gone, 3 sets of fans can’t be wrong (well, only in the eyes of those defending him they’ll be wrong like)
 

We've looked much more of a team fighting relegation this season than we did any any of Martinez's 3 seasons

Martinez had Lukaku and Barkley plus a fully fit team a lot of the time. I still remember the meltdown on here when Tim Sherwood’s Aston Villa got a surprise 3 points and we were sat 3 points above the relegation zone in Feb. The panic may not have been as bad as this season we had Lukaku, undoubted quality, and without the legacy of shambolic losses that season but 47 points both seasons tells its own story, we were not safe until late in the season both times.
 
Utterly currently convinced he will still be here in August.
Sadly I think this will be the case because I have zero confidence in the board to even have either approached other candidates or have someone in mind...as Blue rhys said earlier...where is this "board shake up"? As long as these clowns are in charge I cannot see anything changing...hope I am wrong
 
Martinez had Lukaku and Barkley plus a fully fit team a lot of the time. I still remember the meltdown on here when Tim Sherwood’s Aston Villa got a surprise 3 points and we were sat 3 points above the relegation zone in Feb. The panic may not have been as bad as this season we had Lukaku, undoubted quality, and without the legacy of shambolic losses that season but 47 points both seasons tells its own story, we were not safe until late in the season both times.

Martinez isn't perfect, deserved to go after a poor season but he is a far better manager than sam

he has already achieved more in his career than fat sam ever has
 

If he’s here come August I’ll be choosing a new sport to follow until he’s gone.

If we give him till Christmas, then the season will inevitably be another write off. New manager new start in the summer for everyone before a ball is kicked.

*everyone doesn’t include Williams, Schneiderfruad, and Mirallas, the absolute biffs
 
It’s like arguing which one is less awful. Both very poor managers who should never have had the privilege of being Everton manager.

to a degree I agree a little, both ultimately weren't good enough but at the time od appointment Martinez wasn't a bad shout, just won a cup, was a young attack minded manager and his first season was superb, his biggest flaw is he just didn't learn from his obvious mistakes

I feel If could balance attack vs defence he could manage anyone he wanted to

fat sam on the other hand- spent his whole career keeping dog teams in the prem, playing dog football, playing dog players, he is a dog and he is probably the last person I would have ever given the job to ( he's along the lines of a pulis pardew and hughes )
 
to a degree I agree a little, both ultimately weren't good enough but at the time od appointment Martinez wasn't a bad shout, just won a cup, was a young attack minded manager and his first season was superb, his biggest flaw is he just didn't learn from his obvious mistakes

I feel If could balance attack vs defence he could manage anyone he wanted to

fat sam on the other hand- spent his whole career keeping dog teams in the prem, playing dog football, playing dog players, he is a dog and he is probably the last person I would have ever given the job to ( he's along the lines of a pulis pardew and hughes )

His Bolton teams generally played decent football a lot of the time.
 

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