Sam Allardyce

[davids]

Jim White and co currently ripping us to bits because we don't like BFS...aww poor Sam been crying to his media chums again.

Maybe prompted by Moshiri?

 

[Barnfred 55]

I have a lot of sympathy for him if im honest, dont get me wrong we are playing turgid stuff, but what did we expect. Hes the medicine for bad decision making and recruitment. He is only acting in his remit and is fulfilling the job he is asked to do. When you select a manager you know what philosophy you are buying into and we knew what we were getting into when we recruited him, no complaints really.

I think hes a goner, i think he knows it, but some of the criticism he gets on here is way beyond what is fair, perosnally when it happens that he is sacked part of me will be dssapointed about Evertons approach to this, i dont like it.

We are turgid now, but it is better being turgid winning 1-0 with a shot on goal then being turgid and getting tumped by Arsenal, Watford and Southampton every week.

If thd turgid football was the only problem I would agree with you mate. I can only speak for myself but, whilst that is one valid reason why I dont want him as manager, it has nothing to do with why I dislike him so much. Every time he opens his mouth he shows himself to be a hateful, vindictive, self serving egotist of the highest order, and thats being kind.

I find it impossible to feel sorry for somebody who doesn't have an ounce of modesty or dignity in his body.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Maybe prompted by Moshiri?

Maybe, but White and his chums are really having a go at the fans this morning.

 

[Papa Shango]

Jim White and co currently ripping us to bits because we don't like BFS...aww poor Sam been crying to his media chums again.

I get it but its also pointless.

From the outside looking in he is probably getting treated harshly, we are 8th in the league and have hardly been 1970 Brazil for the last 25 years.

However if the fans (in general) don't want him then the fans don't want him. You can't fix that no matter what happens.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I get it but its also pointless.

From the outside looking in he is probably getting treated hardly, we are 8th in the league and have hardly been 1970 Brazil for the last 25 years.

However if the fans (in general) don't want him then the fans don't want him. You can't fix that no matter what happens.

No exactly, the fans are entitled to an opinion if they don't like him, they don't like him end of.

 

[davids]

Maybe, but White and his chums are really having a go at the fans this morning.

Moshiri will be looking at saving money paying Allardyce off, White is his mouthpiece.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Where was a post where I ever said Allardyce would be anywhere near my choice as a manager of Everton.My only defence as you call it has been directed to the childish and somewhat boring personal insults thrown his way by the more rabid of the forum membership.I think in the US there is a TV show called Dr Phil that might be of help to you.

I've no idea who Dr Phil is and couldn't give a toss tbh. I guess it's another one of your attempted backhanded insults which falls flat on it's face.

OK. So I'll ask you the same question. Where do you stand on Sam Allardyces recent comments about David Unsworth.?

 

[CRIMHEAD]

The same West Brom who managed to beat Liverpool at Anfield, and draw against them this weekend, and beat Man United at Old Trafford recently.

No fixture in this league is easy. Obviously over a 38 game season, the league position is determined by how capable a team is, but anyone can compete on any given day which is why West Brom troubled Liverpool twice despite being vastly inferior.

It’s especially hard when you have to balance Europe, cup competitions, when you have no money to spend in the winter window, when you start off with a brutal schedule, when you have a ton of injuries...

...oh wait, Sam didn’t have to deal with any of that.

By most standards, he’s not been particularly successful. If the standard is getting outplayed by Burnley and Watford, if it’s playing dreadful football, if it’s getting anhiliated by a mediocre Arsenal side, then yes, he’s fine as manager. But he should be removed just for insulting the entire organization every chance he gets.

 

[davids]

I've no idea who Dr Phil is and couldn't give a toss tbh. I guess it's another one of your attempted backhanded insults which falls flat on it's face.

OK. So I'll ask you the same question. Where do you stand on Sam Allardyces recent comments about David Unsworth.?

Unsworth was lost,didn't take Allardyce to work that one out.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Unsworth was lost,didn't take Allardyce to work that one out.

Yeah, thank heavens for Sam leading us to the 4-0 victory that Unsworth managed.

 

[EFC78]

I get it but its also pointless.

From the outside looking in he is probably getting treated hardly, we are 8th in the league and have hardly been 1970 Brazil for the last 25 years.

However if the fans (in general) don't want him then the fans don't want him. You can't fix that no matter what happens.

There are 2 aspects to this in my opinion.

Fans of other clubs will look at how a lot of our support never gave Allardyce a chance from the start, saw the turmoil we were in when he arrived, and now see us in 8th so find it hard to understand. I think they have some justification in criticising us for that.

However, most of them aren't watching the football on display week in week out when making their judgement. They don't see how we set up for games against Swansea away, or that he's happy to settle for a 0-0 draw against a Watford side that are there for the taking with 10-15 mins left. And the more frustrating aspect is that a lot of the media and fans of other clubs have been fed this idea that no one can possibly compete with the 'Big 6' ever again. It's laughable the way this 'Big 6' are seen as untouchable when it's existed for about 2 seasons.

Football changes very quickly and I doubt in even 5 years time, the same 6 will be finishing in the top 6 every season without fail.

 

[orly]

If a newspaper published that, they'd be sued by sAm without a doubt. You can't, morally at least, and I'm pretty sure legally as well, libel people and get away with it just because its t'internet, surely?

Steve, there are probably 100 instances a day that Allardyce is called a red wine jus addicted bovine-headed brown envelope pocketing crook.

They aren't sued as, like when Steve Keen was caught on camera actually calling him a crook, Big Sammy would rather not open his back catalogue to even closer scrutiny.

 

[Brisan123]

The same West Brom who managed to beat Liverpool at Anfield, and draw against them this weekend, and beat Man United at Old Trafford recently.

No fixture in this league is easy. Obviously over a 38 game season, the league position is determined by how capable a team is, but anyone can compete on any given day which is why West Brom troubled Liverpool twice despite being vastly inferior.

New manager bounce , know they are relegated and going for it WBA
They are a totally different animal now then when we played them.
They were pure and utter dross when we played them
There’s a good reason they are bottom of the table.
3 good games doesn’t make a season or a great team.
Wigan beat City in the cup

 

[ToffeeTim]

Interesting that we've now reached page 1400 of this thread.

Very poignant considering that was the last year in which Allardyce’s football tactics were successful.

 

[Papa Shango]

There are 2 aspects to this in my opinion.

Fans of other clubs will look at how a lot of our support never gave Allardyce a chance from the start, saw the turmoil we were in when he arrived, and now see us in 8th so find it hard to understand. I think they have some justification in criticising us for that.

However, most of them aren't watching the football on display week in week out when making their judgement. They don't see how we set up for games against Swansea away, or that he's happy to settle for a 0-0 draw against a Watford side that are there for the taking with 10-15 mins left. And the more frustrating aspect is that a lot of the media and fans of other clubs have been fed this idea that no one can possibly compete with the 'Big 6' ever again. It's laughable the way this 'Big 6' are seen as untouchable when it's existed for about 2 seasons.

Football changes very quickly and I doubt in even 5 years time, the same 6 will be finishing in the top 6 every season without fail.

Yeah agree with all of that apart from maybe the Swansea part. In the last 4 home games before us they and beaten Liverpool, Man Utd, Burnley and battered West Ham. Poor performance but not the worst result all things considered.