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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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not long back from Huddersfield and I have to say the players really put in a shift for him, not something we could say about the latter stages of the Martinez/Koeman eras, he appears to have galvanised Keane and Schnneiderlin, Walcott has been an excellent signing with Tosun also proving to be more than adequate, and while we aren't exactly playing champagne football we are organised and effective,I would be tempted to leave him in post and see where he takes us.
I'd be tempted to load him into a trebuchet and launch him into the ocean.
 
Sam Allardyce, the Manager who manages to make a win feel like a loss. He has been playing the victim and hero card since the final whistle and has most of the media singing from his hymn sheet i.e the fans are ungrateful and unreasonable, Sam deserves better, Is a hero, has done the best he can and cannot do any more than he is doing.

Man these are really trying times to be an Evertonian and i have been one for 50 years. Never known such mind games, arrogance and manipulation from an Everton Manager and the worst thing is, there are people falling for it.
 
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Sam Allardyce, the Manager who manages to make a win feel like a loss. He has been playing the victim and hero card since the final whistle and has most of the media singing from his hymn sheet i.e the fans are ungrateful and unreasonable, Sam deserves better, Is a hero, has done the best he can and cannot do any more than he is doing.

Man these are really trying times to be an Evertonian and i have been one for 50 years. Never known such mind games, arrogance and manipulation from an Everton Manager and the worst thing is, there are people falling for it.
Wait till you hear MOTD tonight. They'll be taking the piss on this issue.
 

Sam Allardyce, the Manager who manages to make a win feel like a loss. He has been playing the victim and hero card since the final whistle and has most of the media singing from his hymn sheet i.e the fans are ungrateful and unreasonable, Sam deserves better, Is a hero, has done the best he can and cannot do any more than he is doing.

Man these are really trying times to be an Evertonian and i have been one for 50 years. Never known such mind games, arrogance and manipulation from an Everton Manager and the worst thing is, there are people falling for it.
Worse thing is there are fans falling for it.
 
OK, I am going to say it, if he is our man next season (which I now think he is), he will spend big(ish) on his players and will play with his squad. We are getting results and top 6 form since Christmas, if it has tobe, it has to be. It's no Emery or Fonseca, the "what if's" will be huge but, at least we will not be spending the whole season looking over our shoulders.

This is what we have become it seems, settling for this level of "success".
Please dont count me in what you see as "we"
 
Sam Allardyce, the Manager who manages to make a win feel like a loss. He has been playing the victim and hero card since the final whistle and has most of the media singing from his hymn sheet i.e the fans are ungrateful and unreasonable, Sam deserves better, Is a hero, has done the best he can and cannot do any more than he is doing.

Man these are really trying times to be an Evertonian and i have been one for 50 years. Never known such mind games, arrogance and manipulation from an Everton Manager and the worst thing is, there are people falling for it.
Your rants are great
 
I asked you at the start who you would realistically get to replace him. If we could get anyone I'd get Simeone, but that would never happen. Now who do you realistically see us getting?
I honestly could not say,I couldnt tell you a thing about Emery,Fonseca or any other manager from abroad,I struggle to watch ys never mind any other football,as I said theres a host of people at the club who should be making these decisions,and Alladyce really shouldnt would not be a choice for any club that has any sort of ambition,the board panicked and brought him in,he done what was asked but in no way would he be a choice at the start of a season for a club that has any sort of ambition,even if he stays to see out the rest of his contract I personally dont think there would be any great improvement and its just a year longer waiting to replace him
 

I'm baffled at the thought of people expecting anything other than what we got with Sam, we knew who he is and what he does before he arrived. I mean the highest possible place we could have finished after he took over was 7th, he's fell just short of that so no undue adulation is required but the cryarsing from the masses is hopefully just a message to Moshiri that mid table is the bare minimum they expect now and they're demanding better for next season, whether we get it or not is a different story and I feel sympathetic towards whoever is in charge then already.

Yes exactly so why should we keep him is the question? I think he's made matters worse with his comments and disrespect of the fans and the club, he's also not stepped up to the mark of Everton manager. We are in a decent run now but take it in the context, most of the teams we've played have been poor or their season is over or they weren't bothered like Liverpool. This current run is kind of false in that way, any good team we have played has beaten us and most away games have been dire slogs to try and get a draw. So we say thanks for steadying the ship Sam but we are moving on without you.
 
Today's post match Radio Merseyside phone in was split with fans and critics of SA. Even Ronnie Goodlass (who wants him out) got stick off one caller who accused him of stabbing the last two managers in the back.

It really is going to get nasty.
Yep listened to that too .

Thought it was depressing how many blues thought he was doing a decent job and should be kept on.

Mind you they all sounded like arl fellas and I'm 58!
 
Allardyce has won just six of those 16 games, with four of those victories in his first five matches in charge of the Toffees. The former England manager has also lost six times, including heavy defeats to both Tottenham and Arsenal, as well as drawing four games.

Despite not being at the club anywhere near as long as either Koeman or Martinez, Allardyce does compare unfavourably to either man. New Netherlands manager Koeman had a points-per-game average of 1.48 from 58 matches in charge of Everton, while Belgium boss Martinez boasted a 1.56 average from his 143 games as Blues boss.

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That doesn't prove anything apart from we haven't picked up many points besides that it's massively out of date.

So far allerdyce has manages 22 games in the premier league wining 9 , drawing 6 and losing 7. Which would mean allerdyce ppg is 1.5. Which is better then koemans 1.48 and by the end of the season will probably be better then Martinez 1.56.

Regardless ppg stats mean nothing about defence the fact of the matter is allerdyce has had 7 clean sheets in the premier league. With us only conceding more then one goal in 6 games out of 22. Compare that to under unswoth where we conceded 20 goals in 8 games and only had 1 clean sheet.

He has improved the defence there is no denying that. How ever much we all want him out.
 
OK, I am going to say it, if he is our man next season (which I now think he is), he will spend big(ish) on his players and will play with his squad. We are getting results and top 6 form since Christmas, if it has tobe, it has to be. It's no Emery or Fonseca, the "what if's" will be huge but, at least we will not be spending the whole season looking over our shoulders.

This is what we have become it seems, settling for this level of "success".

He's averaging 1.5 ppg, which over a season would be 57 points.

In the last 15 years, we have exceeded that points total on 9 of those 15 seasons, the only ones we didn't - where 03/04 - when we had 39 pts, 05/06 when we struggled badly after the CL qualifier went tits up, 10/11 and 11/12 and Martinez last 2 years which saw him sacked.
 

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