Sam Allardyce

[AdaBrummieblue]

I cant see us spunking a shedload of money

Got to ask, do you see us spending, say, 50m+, 20m+? Relying on outgoings?

 

[Goat]

Got to ask, do you see us spending, say, 50m+, 20m+? Relying on outgoings?

Honestly no idea mate, ive stopped even trying to 2nd guess this new Everton.

But im still in the camp that says we have a little bit of "spare cash" lying around, but hand on heart I wouldnt like to guess, its a tough window, thats for damn sure.

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

its a tough window, thats for damn sure.

Not a truer word said! It is, and it's important, and I'm with you. Fingers crossed.

 

[tadao]

Got to ask, do you see us spending, say, 50m+, 20m+? Relying on outgoings?

From his presser the other day, I think players need to be offloaded. There should be money still available but, just the way SA sounded?

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

From his presser the other day, I think players need to be offloaded. There should be money still available but, just the way SA sounded?

I have zero clue either tbh. Doubt if anyone on here does, just after opinions. We do have the outs if needed though I reckon. Could move a bit of deadwood on for a few quid.

 

[tadao]

I have zero clue either tbh. Doubt if anyone on here does, just after opinions. We do have the outs if needed though I reckon. Could move a bit of deadwood on for a few quid.

The Jan window is 'probably' the best time to get rid of players you don't want? Clubs are desperate, so we could offload and fund the players we want, although that works both ways so..

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

The Jan window is 'probably' the best time to get rid of players you don't want? Clubs are desperate, so we could offload and fund the players we want, although that works both ways so..

I think the only prob with that is, we want to get rid of "so and so" for "so much", but the one's we want in are gonna cost considerably more. I doubt we'll get more than 3 in. Not sure we've got a lot of cash to spare tbh. If we do get 3 in though, then I expect, and hope, they'll be the right 3. Striker has to be priority for me, although a lb wouldn't hurt either. CB I'm ok with now that Ashley has woke up from his slumber

 

[tadao]

I think the only prob with that is, we want to get rid of "so and so" for "so much", but the one's we want in are gonna cost considerably more. I doubt we'll get more than 3 in. Not sure we've got a lot of cash to spare tbh. If we do get 3 in though, then I expect, and hope, they'll be the right 3. Striker has to be priority for me, although a lb wouldn't hurt either. CB I'm ok with now that Ashley has woke up from his slumber

Williams is 'better' now because we start from a really deep position. Even then he has 'moments' like the goal yesterday when he lost his man?
We still need what Koeman said we needed.. a striker, a left sided defender (although Lescotts are hard to find, so prob means LCB and LB). Rooney seems to be filling the gap for Ross, so I'll doubt there'll be much else?

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

Williams is 'better' now because we start from a really deep position. Even then he has 'moments' like the goal yesterday when he lost his man?
We still need what Koeman said we needed.. a striker, a left sided defender (although Lescotts are hard to find, so prob means LCB and LB). Rooney seems to be filling the gap for Ross, so I'll doubt there'll be much else?

I'm with ya mate, I just think if we have to get players then we'd be better off getting a forward and a left back right now. A classy CB would be awesome too, but we do have Keane and Jagielka still. Thank the Lord for Mason Holgate tbh.

 

[captainvindaloo]

Opinion, rumour etc indicated that a Barkley sale in the summer was supposed to finance a striker. It backfired and lead to this. A bit simplistic, but plausible. Will they try again in January?

Unfortunately, quality will be thin on the ground, as this is the window you are supposed to use to tweak your team, not re-build it. I think we will see more going out than incoming as well. Loans will most likely make up the majority of our business.

Besides, it's uncertain how much transfer cash Moshiri will trust to Allardyce, either now, or in the summer.
I am guessing Allardyce will not last his contract of 2 years, unless, by some miracle, we play like no other Allardyce side ever has before, we get into Europe and/or win a cup this season, or worse case scenario, we cannot attract a proven manager, Allardyce retires and leaves little Sam and Shakespeare in charge.

Allardyce is and always will be regarded as the PL's managerial super-sub. The freelance, "in case of emergency break glass", interim manager on-call troubleshooter. I doubt he (or perhaps, more importantly, his long-suffering wife) would want to deal with the stress of PL management on a long-term basis at this point anyway. The man wants to retire, we have just handed him the perfect golden handshake. A massive payday and a chance to perhaps finish on a high, at the biggest team of his career, and at best a flirtation with a place in Europe.

Having said all that (sorry, bit wordy), the quality of teams (below the top four) in the PL is crap this season anyway, so, anything could happen.

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

Loans will most likely make up the majority of our business

Batshuayi and Sturridge. You heard it here first.

 

[tadao]

I'm with ya mate, I just think if we have to get players then we'd be better off getting a forward and a left back right now. A classy CB would be awesome too, but we do have Keane and Jagielka still. Thank the Lord for Mason Holgate tbh.

Who'd have thought it?
Someone did the other week, when I said play the same team for a few games and see what happens but, Mason H wasn't in my team..
Don't change a winning team, seems to be working!

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

Who'd have thought it?
Someone did the other week, when I said play the same team for a few games and see what happens but, Mason H wasn't in my team..
Don't change a winning team, seems to be working!

Works for me, works for Samuel, works for us all I reckon. So far at least. Be interesting to see when he changes things up. Time will tell.

 

[trueblue10]

I suppose my thoughts on allardyce was solidified Monday night.

How we could swap a crap manager who was losing games for one making us play even crapper football and win is pretty much typical of this club.

From what I have seen, allardyce has been incredibly lucky so far into his run. Huddersfield was against a quite poor team that it worked, Liverpool should have killed us off by half time , Newcastle should have beat us and Swansea are clearly going down. A different run of fixtures to start him off and we could well still be in a relegation battle, luck has played a big part.

It's this tactic of holding firm for 45 minutes before coming into the game which is going to be his downfall. Last night hoofing the ball all half and getting nowhere before coming out second half and trying to play then isn't going to work every game, or at all against anyone good. What happens when we concede more than one? What happens when the other team out allardyce us and sit back second half to soak us up? This will be a factor moving forward especially against worse teams come Feb onwards. The need for a great striker next month is even bigger now, we need a match winner up top so the likes of Rooney (who is past his best) isnt hailed as some sort of hero and can just contribute quietly.

Its about time this club of ours had a " lucky" manager.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

He’s pushed us on from the disaster that was Unsworth’s caretaker reign.

If we finish 10th, Sam will make it seem like he’s won us the league and what a miracle it is for us to be there.

He needs to go in the summer for us to be on track for being a Champions League club by the time we move stadiums.

Out of interest, where would we need to finish in order for you to think he should be kept on?