Sam Allardyce

[Barnfred 55]

Strange friend

I know its a he cos his name is Colin.

And yes he is left finned.

Are you sure it isn't Colleen?. Has it got it's own clothes range?

 

[trueblue10]

As a general rule successful clubs develop a style of play and appoint managers who are able work within that style and the squad they inherit. When you appoint a manager who doesn’t operate within your chosen method you are almost always faced with disruption to the squad and systems, which can often have a deleterious effect on the teams performance and position.
My argument with Allardyce is that his preferred style of play is limited and while it will give you mid table security it will never be good enough to trouble the top of the table which is where we , allegedly, aspire to be. This in turn means that any manager we appoint subsequently will be faced with the inherent need to adjust the squad with all the concurrent dangers of discontinuity and failure, and we end up back at square one.

For this please see our previous manager

 

[trueblue10]

Are you sure it isn't Colleen?. Has it got it's own clothes range?

Well now you mention it, he has a liking for FISHnet stockings.

 

[BernieWright13]

He's a fish mate, he's got fins not feet.

Martina?

 

[BernieWright13]

This new forward needs to be a big success for Allardyce and show us he can put an attacking game together. Putting on "and acceptable performance" against Murder Incorporated last night is not cutting muster.

Has it all to do.

Gotta love that name for the s

 

[davek]

Gotta love that name for the s

It's the only one I can get away with on here.

 

[Frang]

..I don’t disagree, Tim, but you can’t turn this lot into Barcelona. We’re a poor side playing dire football. That was the case before Allardyce, the difference now is that he’s at least got them into some type of shape and picking up points.

some people are lambasting allardyce for this turgid football, but as you say , how the hell was he going to get this lot playing like Barcelona, this is KOEMANS team, a team who we all witnessed playing shambolic, brainless football which was ending in 3/4/5 nil defeats.

I'm not an advocate of allardyce per se, but you have to give the man some credit for just stopping the rot and instilling some confidence.

lets see how the team perform after this window when he hopefully has got a couple of his type of players in.

don't judge him on past jobs, because we are not sunderland or crystal palace. far from it infact

 

[Frang]

£200 Million spent yes.
But the income over that 2 years equates to

£95 M for Lukaku
£25M (estimate ) for other sales
£ 50M x 2 for 2 seasons tv money.
£10M paying off 2 managers contracts

Total £230M

So going by that assumption, our MEGA rich investor has pocketed £30 M.

We got a Santander loan a few weeks ago, and the Tosun deal, still didn't go through yesterday until the Barkley sale to Chelsea was confirmed.

The figures over Moshiri's tenure do not add up.

tv money is £125m a year for the last 2 years... not £50m a year

 

[kenada_blue]

As a general rule successful clubs develop a style of play and appoint managers who are able work within that style and the squad they inherit. When you appoint a manager who doesn’t operate within your chosen method you are almost always faced with disruption to the squad and systems, which can often have a deleterious effect on the teams performance and position.
My argument with Allardyce is that his preferred style of play is limited and while it will give you mid table security it will never be good enough to trouble the top of the table which is where we , allegedly, aspire to be. This in turn means that any manager we appoint subsequently will be faced with the inherent need to adjust the squad with all the concurrent dangers of discontinuity and failure, and we end up back at square one.

Exactly.

Just look at the opinions based on last night. Lookman should start, Siggurdson needs to be number 10, DCL not good enough. On the flip side you've got Rooney (top goal scorer) DCL (top assists).

It's completely unbalanced full of inconsistent players, and the consistent ones usually are the expense of another. We've 5 under 23 players in the first team out playing £50mill worth of new signings.

Whoever comes in will still have the same problems as they're from top to bottom rather than tweaks here or there

 

[Frang]

are we all saying we would have preferred Marco silva...

lol lol lol

cant defend for crap can they

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

For this please see our previous manager

With respect that is reductive reasoning. You cannot justify each poor managerial choice by the poor managerial choice which preceded it, the end result of that type of decision is to enter a descending spiral of mediocrity.
You have to break the dismal chain with a bold appointment. Something we have failed to do. Again!

 

[jceverton]

Why would you wish him well when he'll be walking away with a £6m pay off?

Sorry if that sounds bitter but that's effectively what's going to happen.

I understand where you’re coming from mate but the money side is down to the incompetent owner/board. I would never have appointed him personally but don’t see any harm wishing him the best as long as it’s not at Goodison!

 

[royalblue66]

Well now you mention it, he has a liking for FISHnet stockings.

Used to have a liking for the fishnet stockings. missus put a pair on, she looked like a bag of sprouts.

 

[jceverton]

Regardless of how he gets on in the interim, and who the other candidates are? And so what’s if he’s 63, and never won anything. Unless you’re managing a top 4 side you won’t, unless it’s a fluke cup win, which as we know means jack.

Yes regardless of how he gets on in the interim because we know how far he can take us based on the last 20 odd years. He’s not suddenly going to turn into a top manager at 63.

 

[trueblue10]

tv money is £125m a year for the last 2 years... not £50m a year

Even more digraceful then, that we are still having to sell to buy