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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Not sure he ever 'pretty much admitted' his apparent disregard for defending. But in any case, it looked that way and I desperately wanted the man gone by the end. I stand by my admiration of his overall football philosophy in terms of his emphasis on attack. Like I said originally (and at the time when he was in situ), he needed to augment it with defensive discipline and game management, but as we know, he never did. He also seemed likeable and 'got' the club which is more than you can say for either of the obnoxious chancers we've had since.


Indeed, Bernie.

Bobby’s race was run here but as @davek says, the baby should not have been chucked out with the bath water.

We should have been looking for someone to improve upon what was potentially everything we have been yearning for for decades.

Skilful, attacking football.....but with the addition of a defensive format which was not so brittle.

Koeman was neither fish nor foul.
 

In the echo....Sam Allardyce....

What everyone has got to realise, certainly the players, it’s too many defeats again. If it goes three or four games without a win, but you’ve drawn three, the points total continues to tick over and you move forward.”

:rant:
He really doesn’t know when to stop does he ?
 
Imagine a new manager comes in and plays Bolasie left wing, Schneiderlin in the middle and keeps Williams as captain.
 

Sack the tit today and get Silva in to take a late afternoon session.

We can't defend as our defenders are crap so we might as well just try and outscore the opposition for the remainder of the season and play some gung ho togger

This is the thing, BFS could help himself by playing an attacking team and giving them instructions to go for it. As you say, we cant defend, so just play an attacking line up and try to get a few goals. We have to score 2 or 3 per game to ensure a win.
 
His grin in that interview makes me hate him more.

That's a grin of "Get rid of me and i walk with 6 million i don't care"

I hope Moshiri saw that and saw what a fraud he hired.
 
Imagine a new manager comes in and plays Bolasie left wing, Schneiderlin in the middle and keeps Williams as captain.
... and they win 5 on the bounce?

To be fair, I would give any new manager a free pass on who he picks as long as we see him trying to evaluate and find a way to win with what we have, as we can't go and replace everyone in one go.
 
Of course I don’t think that we can change everything through fan belief. It is however, the one thing at the club we can change and why should we expect the club to deliver the best when we no longer expect it? Even that lot over the park did more of a boycott over expensive tickets than we’ve done over anything recently.

Are you seriously saying to me that if the crowd at Brighton was 20,000 that that wouldnt send a message to Moshiri, the manager, and the players which would be very different to yet another full house of polite clappers shushing the odd boos?

It took the worst of Martinez to finally spark the fans into action and a few banners later and that clown was gone. Fan action can not dictate what the club does, but at the very least it should hold the club to account. Fan pressure increases media scrutiny on the club and it increases sponsor scrutiny on the club.

Sitting there just clapping every week achieves nothing.
But you're moving the goalposts.

You were saying that we just accept stuff, which we clearly don't. Fans boo, they hurl abuse, they tweet the club with their views, they talk on here which is obviously monitored by the club, they leave games early. If you don't think the club is aware of the depth of feeling about the situation then you're living in cloud cuckoo land. You now want 20,000 who've bought a ticket for a game to not turn up for it, because actually taking your seat for a game you've already handed your money over for is somehow helping to maintain the current situation. It's ridiculous.

The thing is, we're not talking about lack of investment or whatever here, it's poor decisions in a footballing sense which have caused this disquiet. I don't see how me not clapping the players onto the pitch will somehow make Michael Keane be able to move his feet, or allow Niasse to suddenly remember how to trap the ball. It's not like they've not tried - they haven't deliberately wasted money on Klaassen, Sandro etc, it's just been a botched job. I'm not just demanding change for changes sake, I want them to start making better decisions, and I don't know that me clapping/not clapping, turning up/staying at home is going to make their decision making better.
 

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