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Transfer Rumour Sandro Ramirez

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Sandro joining and then leaving next year
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GrandOldTeam said:
Not ideal developing players for other clubs. It would be a glorified loan.

Hopeful the talk of a release clause is bobbins.
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Would we be "Developing him" If there is a clause? I would argue most of his development is already done by Barca and they received nothing really. If he helps us win and do well, it is hardly like we developed him. We make a profit and maybe it is the only way he signs? Point is we don't know the facts so why fret.
 
Tubey said:
Nah, not at the prospect of losing a player before he joins who I had no clue about a month ago - more at the club allowing itself to have such a clause to exist in the contract of an unproven 21 year old footballer.

The bigger clubs simply wouldn't have allowed it, and I hoped we were/are moving beyond the Deulofeu-ish nonsense.

If he does well, it just hangs like a cloud over us. Even with Lukaku we didn't have something that absurd in the deal.
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As if we'd have any hope of keeping him if Atletico wanted him next summer anyway.

It's a crap, silly, probably to true, clause anyway, but it really doesn't make any difference.
 
Tubey said:
Nah, not at the prospect of losing a player before he joins who I had no clue about a month ago - more at the club allowing itself to have such a clause to exist in the contract of an unproven 21 year old footballer.

The bigger clubs simply wouldn't have allowed it, and I hoped we were/are moving beyond the Deulofeu-ish nonsense.

If he does well, it just hangs like a cloud over us. Even with Lukaku we didn't have something that absurd in the deal.
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Atletico can buy players just not play them until Jan.
Surely, they would just buy him, loan him to Malaga (or someone) until Jan and it's sorted?

Unless, there's no clause and it's just a rumour.
The alternative is a bit daft from our side.
 

None of us on here knows anything about when Sandro will or wont sign, whats in his contract, .......pure speculation. anyone who believes journalists should buy a large packet of salt....:cool:
 
Yankfootball1 said:
Would we be "Developing him" If there is a clause? I would argue most of his development is already done by Barca and they received nothing really. If he helps us win and do well, it is hardly like we developed him. We make a profit and maybe it is the only way he signs? Point is we don't know the facts so why fret.
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If so, laugh, don't sign him, move on to other targets.

We should get rid of this feeder club image we have and Everloan as soon as possible. I thought we were on the right track - this would suggest otherwise.

The minor profit we'd make is indeed minor compared to the hit on our status we'd take in the eyes of other targets. Why would any somewhat premium player join if we're allowing kids to use us for six months before joining the 3rd biggest club in Spain?

That's my view anyway - I accept it's an extreme one but I honestly think reputation is as big as having money in the game today.
 
ijjysmith said:
As if we'd have any hope of keeping him if Atletico wanted him next summer anyway.

It's a crap, silly, probably to true, clause anyway, but it really doesn't make any difference.
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'course it makes a difference. It's the difference between Atletico getting him for, say, £15-20m next year and basically acting as a feeder club in the interim or us demanding £70m for a player on a four year contract if they want him bad enough and being a big club making astute signings and convincing talented prospects to come here on long contracts.
 

GrandOldTeam said:
Not ideal developing players for other clubs. It would be a glorified loan.

Hopeful the talk of a release clause is bobbins.
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Sorry mate, dealing with house guests. Do you really think we'd do that? I don't (now) but I'm aware we have in the past. I just think we may have moved past that stage. I'm kinda hoping we have at least. Nothing would make me happier than to think we can buy players and then KEEP the buggers. I'm with you on hoping the release is just nonsense though. There's no reason why we shouldn't buy 'em and train 'em and then make 'em win the League for us.
 
Tubey said:
'course it makes a difference. It's the difference between Atletico getting him for, say, £15-20m next year and basically acting as a feeder club in the interim or us demanding £70m for a player on a four year contract if they want him bad enough and being a big club making astute signings and convincing talented prospects to come here on long contracts.
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