Scottish football

[larbert toffee]

Utter scum.

All handsome lads tbf.............

 

[Cork Evertonian]

I mean you're wrong on this as well. Celtic, like Everton were formed so that all boys, from all communities could play.

Liverpool like Rangers were formed as explicitly Protestant club, for Protestants to play.

Like Celtic, we have never been bothered about where you come from, our only concern is if you are good at football.

Houlding admired Rangers a wanted that vision for Everton, which is partly why he was told to do one, as bigotry wasnt part of our value set. We let him form his own club for to play that little fantasy out.

Actually Rangers were formed for footballing reasons. Religion had little to do with it's early history. I've read enough about it, to be satisfied that it's the case. I would take a historians word on it, over the words of some random stranger on the internet. Obviously that changed as the years went on, and both old firm clubs assumed their respective identities. Rangers have had it's signing policy, Celtic have had issues with some (note how unlike you, i have not tarred an entire clubs support, with the one brush) of their fans, celebrating and glorifying terrroist organizations. I also think celtic players and officials refusal to wear the poppy, to be an insult to be honest. That's just my opinion, and you have your own. I'd rather discuss matters relating to football, but unfortunately inaccurate facts (in my own view anyway) and information, just has to be challenged.

 

[The Celtic View]

Celtic weren't whiter that white either (and I say this as an Irish Celtic supporter). Jock Stein was more or less told he had no chance to become manager when he joined the club’s backroom staff

While that is an absolute disgrace, it was back in the 60's. Things were a lot different back then. I highly doubt you would have seen a black guy get the opportunity to manage many, if any, top clubs in the UK.

Even allowing for that, it shows there were a few bigoted merchant bankers in the Celtic board. The fans were happy to have Jock Stein as club manager. There were no protests outside Celtic Park when Jock was appointed.

Rangers fans were unhappy at the club singing a Catholic, even though he was a top class striker, and made their feelings known in the protests outside Ibrox.

 

[The Celtic View]

All bonnie loons...

And to be fair,I remember his first old firm game were he got booed by Celtic fans and cheered on by the blue hoardes at parkhead singing mo mo super mo.

Of course he did. As I'm pretty sure Sol Campbell will have been booed by the Spurs fans for signing for Arsenal.

If Johnston had gone straight from Nantes to Rangers with no mention of Celtic it would still have been controversial, but nowhere near as bad as it turned out.

After holding up a Celtic jersey saying Celtic were the only club he wanted to play for, he built up the hopes of the Celtic fans that they could compete with Rangers. To do that, then sign for the forces of darkness was a shocker, and he will never, EVER, be forgiven for it.

 

[The Celtic View]

Good luck.

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Fair play to the lad. It takes el grandes cojones to sign for Celtic the state we're in at the moment.

I hope he does well.

 

[The Celtic View]

Actually Rangers were formed for footballing reasons. Religion had little to do with it's early history. I've read enough about it, to be satisfied that it's the case. I would take a historians word on it, over the words of some random stranger on the internet. Obviously that changed as the years went on, and both old firm clubs assumed their respective identities. Rangers have had it's signing policy, Celtic have had issues with some (note how unlike you, i have not tarred an entire clubs support, with the one brush) of their fans, celebrating and glorifying terrroist organizations. I also think celtic players and officials refusal to wear the poppy, to be an insult to be honest. That's just my opinion, and you have your own. I'd rather discuss matters relating to football, but unfortunately inaccurate facts (in my own view anyway) and information, just has to be challenged.

If the USSR had invaded Britain, there had been a battle, and it was agreed that London and it's surrounding areas were now part of the Soviet Union, would you wear badges honouring dead Russian soldiers?

Personally, I think people should be allowed to wear a poppy if they like, and if they don't want to wear one their opinion should be respected. This Poppy fascism is a relatively new thing, that started after Blair agreed to invade Iraq.

Before then clubs didn't wear poppy's on their shirts, and Remembrance Sunday was a time to reflect on the insanity of sending young men to their death. It wasn't a tub thumping, last day at the sectarian proms, day out in which soldiers abseiled from the roof of the stand, held up Keep Ulster Protestant scarves and sang about Bobby Sands, while a canon was fired at the side of the pitch!

To say the least, it would be a tad rich for a supporter of TRIFC to try take the moral high ground over songs about terrorist organisations.

P.S. Can't you see the hypocrisy of a club that deliberately avoided paying their taxes for years shouting about the army and the crown, Corky?

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Of course he did. As I'm pretty sure Sol Campbell will have been booed by the Spurs fans for signing for Arsenal.

If Johnston had gone straight from Nantes to Rangers with no mention of Celtic it would still have been controversial, but nowhere near as bad as it turned out.

After holding up a Celtic jersey saying Celtic were the only club he wanted to play for, he built up the hopes of the Celtic fans that they could compete with Rangers. To do that, then sign for the forces of darkness was a shocker, and he will never, EVER, be forgiven for it.

Hang on fella.
I never said he was wrongly booed by the green lot.
He was quite rightly booed for posing in a Celtic jersey and promising to sign from Nantes.
I was just recalling the day and the game which might've been live .

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Actually Rangers were formed for footballing reasons. Religion had little to do with it's early history. I've read enough about it, to be satisfied that it's the case. I would take a historians word on it, over the words of some random stranger on the internet. Obviously that changed as the years went on, and both old firm clubs assumed their respective identities. Rangers have had it's signing policy, Celtic have had issues with some (note how unlike you, i have not tarred an entire clubs support, with the one brush) of their fans, celebrating and glorifying terrroist organizations. I also think celtic players and officials refusal to wear the poppy, to be an insult to be honest. That's just my opinion, and you have your own. I'd rather discuss matters relating to football, but unfortunately inaccurate facts (in my own view anyway) and information, just has to be challenged.

Glorifying terrorists organisations?
You never been to a rangers game and had a pint in the bear pits?

 

[davek]

Fair play to the lad. It takes el grandes cojones to sign for Celtic the state we're in at the moment.

I hope he does well.

I think Kenny will offer better quality crossing than Frimpong.

 

[The Celtic View]

I think Kenny will offer better quality crossing than Frimpong.

In fairness, that's no great boast.

If the boy isn't already Scheidt we'll probably turn him into being Scheidt within a short space of time!

 

[laudo9]

If the USSR had invaded Britain, there had been a battle, and it was agreed that London and it's surrounding areas were now part of the Soviet Union, would you wear badges honouring dead Russian soldiers?

Personally, I think people should be allowed to wear a poppy if they like, and if they don't want to wear one their opinion should be respected. This Poppy fascism is a relatively new thing, that started after Blair agreed to invade Iraq.

Before then clubs didn't wear poppy's on their shirts, and Remembrance Sunday was a time to reflect on the insanity of sending young men to their death. It wasn't a tub thumping, last day at the sectarian proms, day out in which soldiers abseiled from the roof of the stand, held up Keep Ulster Protestant scarves and sang about Bobby Sands, while a canon was fired at the side of the pitch!

To say the least, it would be a tad rich for a supporter of TRIFC to try take the moral high ground over songs about terrorist organisations.

P.S. Can't you see the hypocrisy of a club that deliberately avoided paying their taxes for years shouting about the army and the crown, Corky?

So you're saying that Seperate Entity FC pandering to a certain sectarian element of their support to speak for the majority of people that follow the club is fine?
What about the hypocrisy of the only club that refuses to wear the poppy on their shirt but makes a £10k donation to the poppy fund every year to try and counter any criticism that comes their way?

 

[PaddyJames]

So you're saying that Seperate Entity FC pandering to a certain sectarian element of their support to speak for the majority of people that follow the club is fine?
What about the hypocrisy of the only club that refuses to wear the poppy on their shirt but makes a £10k donation to the poppy fund every year to try and counter any criticism that comes their way?

When have Celtic "pandered" to a minority of the support to speak for the majority?

As for the second part, a club formed as a charity makes charitable donation .......

AS we look ahead to the 100th anniversary of the end of the Great War, Celtic FC Foundation, the charitable arm of Celtic Football Club today announced that it has once again made a £10,000 donation to the work of Poppyscotland.

The club´s donation will be used primarily to support Poppyscotland´s education programme called ´Sowing the Poppy Seed´. The aim of this programme is to provide a comprehensive learning experience for nurseries, schools, further education institutions and other youth organisations.

 

[catcherintherye]

Actually Rangers were formed for footballing reasons. Religion had little to do with it's early history. I've read enough about it, to be satisfied that it's the case. I would take a historians word on it, over the words of some random stranger on the internet. Obviously that changed as the years went on, and both old firm clubs assumed their respective identities. Rangers have had it's signing policy, Celtic have had issues with some (note how unlike you, i have not tarred an entire clubs support, with the one brush) of their fans, celebrating and glorifying terrroist organizations. I also think celtic players and officials refusal to wear the poppy, to be an insult to be honest. That's just my opinion, and you have your own. I'd rather discuss matters relating to football, but unfortunately inaccurate facts (in my own view anyway) and information, just has to be challenged.

Well I have also read historians. John Houlding when forming Liverpool cited Rangers as the sort of club he wanted to emulate, as opposed to what the remainder of Everton's board wanted.

Celtic's identity was never about being Catholic only. Jock Stein said as much. Some of their great players are Protestants.

I suppose you can have your view on the poppy. Everyone is entitled to their own free speech or free thought on an issue. I don't wear them as they are red and will never wear anything red (comic relief included). I hope thats not an "insult" or something to the pious minded. It's my choice, and if I don't want to wear red, I won't be wearing red, end of discussion. So lets keep the purity politics out of it eh?

As for correcting inaccuracies, I have corrected you on the stance of Liverpool/Rangers and how it was bigoted and different to clubs like Everton. Rangers manager is an utter scumbag as well, and frankly anyone supporting him has no right to go judging anyone elses conduct on whether they wear poppies or otherwise.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

I think Kenny will offer better quality crossing than Frimpong.

Hes at the right club for crossing..........

 

[laudo9]

Of course he did. As I'm pretty sure Sol Campbell will have been booed by the Spurs fans for signing for Arsenal.

If Johnston had gone straight from Nantes to Rangers with no mention of Celtic it would still have been controversial, but nowhere near as bad as it turned out.

After holding up a Celtic jersey saying Celtic were the only club he wanted to play for, he built up the hopes of the Celtic fans that they could compete with Rangers. To do that, then sign for the forces of darkness was a shocker, and he will never, EVER, be forgiven for it.

Does that go for Ben Davies too?