Seamus Coleman

[NilSatisOptimum]

I see John Hartson has gone the way of the myopic Chris Coleman as well. What is wrong with these people? If you've got nothing to say other than defending Taylor then don't bother saying it. Beyond patronising to hear these excuses.

The challenge is an absolute shocker. When Mori lunged on Origi last year we were all unanimous in saying it was a disgrace. Just call the tackle out for what it is.

Coleman has always been arrogant and aloof. Hartson view on player behaviour is hardly credible, just ask his west team mates of the time.

 

[dannyboy]

Coleman has always been arrogant and aloof. Hartson view on player behaviour is hardly credible, just ask his west team mates of the time.

I think there's a bit of a closed mentality regarding Wales these days. If you look at Hartson's analysis of the national team it isn't worth listening to as it's so riddled with bias.

 

[bcblue1878]

Absolutely gutted for Seamus, without any doubt the most likeable, down to earth player in the squad in the time he's been here! Does a tremendous amount of great work for charity and my mind goes back to his interview last week with the Down Syndrome lad when he was laughing a joking with him - little did he know!
If there was ever an argument for retrospective bans in the game the footage last night of that tackle is it, Taylor chickened out and consequently knew he was going to hurt Seamus big time - needs banning from all football for a long time!

 

[Jacob]

...amazed if his fibia isn't gone as well. I also suspect it was a compound fracture. My initial thoughts were he might make the start of next season but it's sounding more severe than that.

Some bloody awful stills of it in today's Times. Looks like a compound tib and fib to me from the pictures so I fear a long haul.

 

[thevorpalblade]

So... Seamus is out for an extended period for rehab, yet Taylor can continue playing despite acting 'out of character'.

To me there's an argument that the offender should be forced to wait until the injured player returns.

I know that most incidents aren't black or white, but this so-called tackle makes me angry (ok annoyed).

 

[mrb85]

Atleast some positive news that it's 6 months healing time then probably another 1-2 months to get back to match fitness.

We definitely need to bring in a whole new defence this summer though. We've needed a successor for Baines for a while now and I think it's ideal to sign a good RB incase Coleman doesn't come back the same player. Add 2 CB's as I said earlier Moshiri will have to get the cheque book out this summer on top of a new GK and 1+2 forwards.

But it took Niasse 4 months to get back to match fitness and all he had was a sprained wrist!!!

 

[mrb85]

Injuries are part and parcel of football, however challenges like last nights are not. Even more gutting that it should be to a model professional who represents the club with such dignity. Here's hoping to a full recovery for seamus.

However bad the tackle was Seamus has been massively unlucky in it resulting in a break. And before we go all moral about tackling take another look at Ratcliffe's on Lerby in the Bayern game at GP in 1985 or Reids on Marwood in the same year. Yes i know it's a different game now but professionals have very frequently sought to damage an opposition player.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I think there's a bit of a closed mentality regarding Wales these days. If you look at Hartson's analysis of the national team it isn't worth listening to as it's so riddled with bias.

Probably try and build some siege mentality out of it.

 

[davek]

So... Seamus is out for an extended period for rehab, yet Taylor can continue playing despite acting 'out of character'.

To me there's an argument that the offender should be forced to wait until the injured player returns.

I know that most incidents aren't black or white, but this so-called tackle makes me angry (ok annoyed).

Spot on. Now that would be a deterrent.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I just don't get why on earth a player would fly in so forcefully, so late, and so high over the ball. I've not played at any level but I just don't understand what goes through a players mind to do that. There's absolutely nothing to be gained. All that can happen is an injury. I feel sick this morning. Sick for Seamus. Sick that the player (who has a disgusting record of injuring others) hasn't uttered a word of remorse, and sick that some in prominence in the media feel the need to defend him. Of course we want to see tackling and not let it disappear. But to go in that high on a player with a planted leg is cowardly.

Over the years mate I've been heavily involved in amateur football at a reasonably high level in Liverpool. When I was much younger I played for the team, and when I got a bad injury early on I became involved on the management side and would be part of the club until it folded abut 10 years ago, so about 30 years in total. We played in the Zingari League and later the County Comp, plus we were close to a local team who competed in the Liverpool Sunday premier. I saw a lot of amateur football, probably 10 times more than I watched Everton.

In all those years, I saw every trick in the book. Every type of infringement imaginable to stop the other team getting an advantage. Even saw mass brawls to get games abandoned. But in all that time I can only remember 2 of our players getting broken legs as a result of bad tackles (and we ran 2, sometimes 3 teams during that 30 + years). I can also only remember 1 occasion when an opposing player had a broken leg. The player that did it was a ringer (a player who wasn't signed on for us) and he never played for us again.

I'm not involved in amateur football these days, but in Liverpool it was played to a very high standard, was extremely competitive, and incredibly hard. Tackles were part and parcel of the game, but on the whole they were hard 50/50 fair challenges, not this over the top challenge that we see so often now in the professional game. You'd get the odd one but, in my experience, not to the degree we're seeing now.

It's something that has to be eradicated from our game. Some of that has to come from the people who run the game through the punishments that are handed out for such offences. Some from the people within the game (the clubs and management) through their own internal discipline procedures. But mostly I think from the people who bring the game into our households, i.e. the media. As I'm typing this I've just seen the sports reporter from BBC news say that Taylors challenge was not malicious, just mis-timed. Absolutely unbelievable.

The whole culture surrounding these types of challenges need to change. Seamus Coleman was not unlucky last night as so many are saying. He was the victim of GBH, and the until "the game" realises this then nothing will be done about it.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Has he had surgery yet

 

[davek]

His misery would have been compounded if this was a world cup summer we're heading into. I'm sure on the international front he'll be getting told by his team mates that he'll be leading his nation out in Russia and they'll be incentivised even more to get him there.

He'll be back - and back quicker than anyone expects. He's a tough kid.

 

[Barnfred 55]

It will because he is psychological damaged by events, like the other times he has gone out to make a name for himself.
Wales will be waiting to respond depending on the injury and outcomes, so it won't be heartfelt.
My view has not changed from last night he lined himself up to take Seamus out.

It's difficult to imagine that a professional footballer deliberately goes out to finish the career of another. As I said in another post, I've only ever seen that once in over 4 years of watching the game. But that's exactly the risk you run when you go into a challenge the way he did. He has to accept full responsibility. No question.

Did you read that article someone posted from the Arsenal fan. Nail on head.

 

[Kieno]

Seamus is being operated on today. Confirmed double fracture of his lower right leg

 

[Barnfred 55]

Has he had surgery yet

Just been on news that he's getting operated on today. Been busy typing in here so haven't had a chance to read all the posts. Has there bean an update on the extent of his injury yet?