2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Saint Domingo]

Well it definitely is because again this season most of our wins will be against the bottom sides.
We may beat a Utd or arsenal,
Chelsea like we do every season.
But under dyche we don’t lay a glove against the top 6/7 sides away from home .

As opposed to all those away wins at those grounds before Dyche (covid season apart)

 

[jazzy]

We won’t lay a glove on the top sides under Dyche except for Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle and Liverpool - but apart from them.

Apart from Carlo's COVID win at the RS I can't remember when we last beat a top 6 team away from home

 

[Ferguson1878]

Was that the year Joe Royle came in? Interesting points deduction for spurs aswell. I cant seem to remember that. Wasnt that the same year we battered them at Elland Road in the semi final aswell.
All a bit of a blur now.

Think they were launched out the cup as well but appealed

 

[John from Bootle]

As opposed to all those away wins at those grounds before Dyche (covid season apart)

If not winning away at the so called big 6 is your biggest worry, then you're probably challenging for Europe.

But we've obviously got bigger worries. Like shoehorning youngsters in to the team and such.

 

[Saint Domingo]

If not winning away at the so called big 6 is your biggest worry, then you're probably challenging for Europe.

But we've obviously got bigger worries. Like shoehorning youngsters in to the team and such.

Does this concern you as much as how he waits until players are fully fit before starting them in the PL?

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Find it a bit mental people crying about youth players not getting time when as soon as the takeover happens they'll go into Football Manager mode wanting us to spend hundreds of millions on Spanish defenders and South American number 10s.

 

[bluestevon]

Does this concern you as much as how he waits until players are fully fit before starting them in the PL?

Yet Tarkowski just last week admitted he's been playing with knocks, so not fully fit...

Both Doucoure and McNeil last season were rushed straight back into the first team after injury, Doucoures injury being a pretty serious one too, both looked way off the pace for weeks after.

He admitted he maybe rushed Branthwaite back too soon the other day.

He refuses to sub clearly exhausted players when he has subs on the bench unused. Who knows how much Tims injury came from that ultimately. Garner he deffo rushed back before being fully fit also, hence a few games then breaks down again for a durable player, same goes for Mykolenko, injured rushed back injured again rinse repeat.

The only single player you can use to show Dyche being cautious bringing players m back really is DCL

 

[Delargeinho]

Apart from Carlo's COVID win at the RS I can't remember when we last beat a top 6 team away from home

Must be West Ham under Carlo in 20/21 if you talk in the moment of playing.

Or of the classical top 6, also Arsenal the same season, but they didn't finish top 6 that season.

 

[John from Bootle]

Yet Tarkowski just last week admitted he's been playing with knocks, so not fully fit...

Both Doucoure and McNeil last season were rushed straight back into the first team after injury, Doucoures injury being a pretty serious one too, both looked way off the pace for weeks after.

He admitted he maybe rushed Branthwaite back too soon the other day.

He refuses to sub clearly exhausted players when he has subs on the bench unused. Who knows how much Tims injury came from that ultimately. Garner he deffo rushed back before being fully fit also, hence a few games then breaks down again for a durable player, same goes for Mykolenko, injured rushed back injured again rinse repeat.

The only single player you can use to show Dyche being cautious bringing players m back really is DCL

Players play all the time with knocks. Very few players are 100% all the time. Listen to some ex players about how often they'd use anti-inflammatory meds and such. There's a difference though between not being 100% and being just not fit enough.

Also, there's a hell of a lot of speculation in your assertions. You have no idea what sort of fitness levels these players have been showing before getting picked, but I'm sure the sports science, physios, manager and player are all included in the decisions regarding fitness. You can't just assume that it's on the manager every time a player suffers a setback.

 

[bluestevon]

Players play all the time with knocks. Very few players are 100% all the time. Listen to some ex players about how often they'd use anti-inflammatory meds and such. There's a difference though between not being 100% and being just not fit enough.

Also, there's a hell of a lot of speculation in your assertions. You have no idea what sort of fitness levels these players have been showing before getting picked, but I'm sure the sports science, physios, manager and player are all included in the decisions regarding fitness. You can't just assume that it's on the manager every time a player suffers a setback.

Conversely you can't then assume it's all on the manager when a players return to fitness and the team goes well.

He's either responsible or not, way too much trying to give Dyche credit for the positive and shifting it for any negative stuff on here from some.

 

[John from Bootle]

Conversely you can't then assume it's all on the manager when a players return to fitness and the team goes well.

Honestly mate, I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Why would I assume the manager would get all the credit for a player returning to fitness? His job is to get them in the team playing well. If he does that, it's a tick in a box for him.

Players get injured. Some more than others. Some players have spells when they struggle and spells when they're fine. I'm sure the manager might get it wrong from time to time, as he's alluded to with Branthwaite, but it doesn't mean it's his fault every time a player has fitness issues or a setback.

 

[Everton1654]

Apart from Carlo's COVID win at the RS I can't remember when we last beat a top 6 team away from home

Oviedo baby v United 2013

 

[Blue peter]

Oviedo baby v United 2013

No we beat Spurs away first game of that season as well, when Moshiri bought Ancelotti a Rolls Royce - I think it was Allan’s and Doucoure’s debuts. All during Covid.

 

[Nymzee]

No we beat Spurs away first game of that season as well, when Moshiri bought Ancelotti a Rolls Royce - I think it was Allan’s and Doucoure’s debuts. All during Covid.

After that game I thought we were gonna win the league (even though Spurs should have scored a few)

 

[Daytripper]

Apart from Carlo's COVID win at the RS I can't remember when we last beat a top 6 team away from home

We won at Arsenal 1-0 a couple of months later