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are you still reeling over the French police mate
Would you give him a new contract?
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
I think on this occasion my friend we will have to agree to disagree.
you keep bringing stats into it, I can only go on what my eyes are telling me
my eyes are telling me different, Goodison used to be any intimidating place for other teams to come, any team coming here now will have the upper hand, as the crowd plays no part for the home team.
if your happy with what's being offered at the moment then so be it, but for me I want my Everton team to compete, and to go the game feeling confident of the game to come.
one final stat to think about, that championship manager from Southampton got beat yesterday but Man city away 1-0 when we play city away will the experienced Sean Dyche do better? (i will get the popcorn
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FrenchDarrenBent
Player Valuation: £20m
Still disappointed we equalised yesterday I see.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
I think on this occasion my friend we will have to agree to disagree.
you keep bringing stats into it, I can only go on what my eyes are telling me
my eyes are telling me different, Goodison used to be any intimidating place for other teams to come, any team coming here now will have the upper hand, as the crowd plays no part for the home team.
if your happy with what's being offered at the moment then so be it, but for me I want my Everton team to compete, and to go the game feeling confident of the game to come.
one final stat to think about, that championship manager from Southampton got beat yesterday but Man city away 1-0 when we play city away will the experienced Sean Dyche do better? (i will get the popcorn
Why are you getting pop corn in the hope of enjoying what you think will be an Everton loss?
I’m not happy with what’s being offered but the difference seems to be who we blame for it.
I blame successive owners of the club for running a sell to buy/loan policy for the majority of the last 3 decades. Gradually decreasing the quality of the squad to one that was firmly in the bottom half.
You seem to blame Dyche because he’s not turned that around in 22 months. Goodison did used to be an intidimidatinf venue playing the school of science way sweeping all before us….in the late 80s. It hasn’t been since. I’d you want to get angry at Dyche 24/7 for that then that’s up to you.
We could get a Glasner Hasenhuttl Bielsa Lage Potter Frank Kompany Vieira Silva whatever else flavour of the month has been called for and I absolutely guarantee you that whilst some aspects will change to your liking others won’t and we will fundamentally end up caught in the same rang blind truth that if you give managers bottom half squads then they’re not going to outperform that by much and not consistently. We might have more do the ball on a matchday or make make subs when you want, or score more or go for it more but ultimately we’re still losing drawing and winning a similar number of games and maybe finishing 10th or 11th in a good season and 16/17th in a bad one.
I want Everton to be the best in the country again b it that comes from the owners giving a manager a squad that’s up there with the best in the league. Until a manager is underperforming the quality of his squad I can’t motivate myself to get that angry and blame them because as we’ve seen multiple mangers tend to just produce the same outcome.
You’ll have a point if Dyche is playing this way after massive investment in player quality by Friedkins and we’re finishing 14th with the 7th best squad in the league. You’re effectively asking Dyche to play football and produce results akin of the 7th best squad in the league even though he has a bottom half one.
No mate, I didn’t watch it. The same way I didn’t watch the Ipswich game, hence why I have no skin in the game
But I’m glad I’m living comfortably in your head for you to think about me.
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £50m
As long as Sean Dyche is the manager this is the performances you are likely to get more often than not....
Dyche home record...
Played 33
Won 13
Drawn 8
Lost 12
47 points from 99, we still play like the away side and get dominated by the majority of the league in most metrics.
Dyche home record...
Played 33
Won 13
Drawn 8
Lost 12
47 points from 99, we still play like the away side and get dominated by the majority of the league in most metrics.
The usual suspects keep defending him.
We got a 94 minute equaliser at home to mighty Fulham and we should be delighted with that. My Goodness.
Anyone who sat through that last night and can say that they were happy with it and that's our level of expectations .
Then you are either a Wum or a liar .
We got a 94 minute equaliser at home to mighty Fulham and we should be delighted with that. My Goodness.
Anyone who sat through that last night and can say that they were happy with it and that's our level of expectations .
Then you are either a Wum or a liar .
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
So you think it’s unrealistic to expect us at match last year? Or do you think it’s only realistic and the height of our ambition to stay in the PL and if we say, achieve 17th we’d say job done? I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect us to achieve what we did last year.
Reading back on this thread is hilarious.
So plucky little Everton, who should only hope for a 17th placed finish, beat all the odds to scrape a vital point against a far superior team that is 3 points ahead of us
Reading this is akin to the MAGA movement. Blind loyalists cults.
So plucky little Everton, who should only hope for a 17th placed finish, beat all the odds to scrape a vital point against a far superior team that is 3 points ahead of us
Reading this is akin to the MAGA movement. Blind loyalists cults.
I don’t think anyone is saying that? Yet again, some people can’t look at things objectively. No one wants Dyche long term but he’s doing the job we need now. The club is complete transition, we’ve repeatedly sold our best players and we just need to to stay in the league until the new owners and stadium.
Sometimes you have to play the long time. Accept the rough and smooth.
The exact same attitude was why silva got hounded out. Before he was sacked he lost Gueye in the summer, then injuries to Gbamin and Gomes left us playing Holgate in midfield. Brands didn’t want him sacked because he knew that results were largely due to a heavy injury list and we needed to just ride it out.
People on this forum cry out for progressive managers, a long term plan etc. but the reality is, they don’t have the patience for it.
I completely agree with @davek that some fans will never ever be happy
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Not hard at all…it just explains the rationale for the debate.
I would be moderately satisfied if we achieved what we did give or take. Whilst I’d be grateful we have not been relegated I wouldn’t be satisfied if we finish 17th as this would represent regression with a marginally better squad than last year, and what I consider to be a similar strength league (if not slightly d8minshed in strength given the start some of the teams have had).
Remind me a little of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Everyone sees us or expects us to be at different levels.
There are plenty sayin a point was a good result at home to Fulham. Including the poster you quoted.
Last nights performance was absolutely shameful. We don't have a brilliant squad. But if we can't play with a bit more intensity, passion and tempo at home them I'm sorry I'm not goin to accept it anyway.