2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[MikeH72]

….many posters assuming Dyche will have us safe this season after working the oracle last season in even worst circumstances, but I’m warning of having people suffering the from end of contract limbo.

Last season I got a PM from somebody on here who is close to the workings of the club. He told me Dyche was doing a significant amount of work to keep the club going in the absence of a functioning owner and Board, vital work outside the scope of his Manager role. The current off-field situation is more promising but absent owner and Board still applies. I can’t see Dyche continuing to work behind the scenes when his job is in limbo.

Similarly, in his on-field duties you have to wonder if he’ll baulk at making the tough calls and going the extra mile when the new owners haven’t spoken to him. It could be similar with Stone and Woan on the training ground, not engaging in extra one-on-one discussions and training for those that might need it, pretty much doing what they have to.

They’ll all be doing their jobs, they’ll all be trying to impress potential suitors but it’s the extra stuff that could make a huge difference in a relegation dog-fight.

If the new owners are fixed on regime change, I’d be advising them to do it sooner rather than later.

In that case they have no choice but to just sack him instantly. What a shame.

 

[TrixyStevens]

An abysmal manager. Has he ever made a tactical switch that’s changed the momentum of the game to get us a result? I can’t think of any instance.
It’s ‘hit and hope’ football. I think he would do well in the championship but not at elite level.
£5M a year.

 

[Harryflashman]

….many posters assuming Dyche will have us safe this season after working the oracle last season in even worst circumstances, but I’m warning of having people suffering the from end of contract limbo.

Last season I got a PM from somebody on here who is close to the workings of the club. He told me Dyche was doing a significant amount of work to keep the club going in the absence of a functioning owner and Board, vital work outside the scope of his Manager role. The current off-field situation is more promising but absent owner and Board still applies. I can’t see Dyche continuing to work behind the scenes when his job is in limbo.

Similarly, in his on-field duties you have to wonder if he’ll baulk at making the tough calls and going the extra mile when the new owners haven’t spoken to him. It could be similar with Stone and Woan on the training ground, not engaging in extra one-on-one discussions and training for those that might need it, pretty much doing what they have to.

They’ll all be doing their jobs, they’ll all be trying to impress potential suitors but it’s the extra stuff that could make a huge difference in a relegation dog-fight.

If the new owners are fixed on regime change, I’d be advising them to do it sooner rather than later.

I think from what people say the bit in bold was certainly true last year , I think he probably did a good job in the circumstances. I’m not convinced he automatically gets a free pass for this season though .

 

[Saint Domingo]

Well that certainly showed me. So after all the bleating about how we can’t possibly play attacking football with this squad of players, there you have just comprehensively proven to us all that we DO play attacking, front foot, progressive football. We got bodies forward in the 94th minute when a goal down, what a novel and forward-thinking concept. I’m sure many clubs will be queuing up for this progressive ahead of the curve manager. What a mic drop against all those plebs that think we play cautious, safety first, dinosaur football. They need to sit down and study the 94th minute of a home game against Fulham when a goal down and see the style of football that we truly play, that’s the true representation of our style. Watch and learn lads, this guy’s got it cracked.

Tell everyone you hated that equaliser going in without telling them.

 

[Dddddd]

Surely no one can have sat through that performance on Saturday and think they want another season of Dyche.

Regardless of the result it’s just incredibly boring.

 

[MikeH72]

Tell everyone you hated that equaliser going in without telling them.

I was not arsed either way truth be told. Wasn’t arsed when Iwobi scored either, just shrugged because it was deserved. I think it was two points dropped regardless, a draw doesn’t do us any good. I’m embarrassed at the performance as I have been for the majority of performances under this manager. He has actually turned us into his Burnley team that I used to laugh at back in the day, that time we played them when the fat kopite was our manager I remember thinking they were the worst footballing team I’d ever seen in my life.

 

[hallamblue]

….many posters assuming Dyche will have us safe this season after working the oracle last season in even worst circumstances, but I’m warning of having people suffering the from end of contract limbo.

Last season I got a PM from somebody on here who is close to the workings of the club. He told me Dyche was doing a significant amount of work to keep the club going in the absence of a functioning owner and Board, vital work outside the scope of his Manager role. The current off-field situation is more promising but absent owner and Board still applies. I can’t see Dyche continuing to work behind the scenes when his job is in limbo.

Similarly, in his on-field duties you have to wonder if he’ll baulk at making the tough calls and going the extra mile when the new owners haven’t spoken to him. It could be similar with Stone and Woan on the training ground, not engaging in extra one-on-one discussions and training for those that might need it, pretty much doing what they have to.

They’ll all be doing their jobs, they’ll all be trying to impress potential suitors but it’s the extra stuff that could make a huge difference in a relegation dog-fight.

If the new owners are fixed on regime change, I’d be advising them to do it sooner rather than later.

So you don't think being paid £5 million is enough for him to go above and beyond Eggs? I've done several fixed term jobs recently, and worked my arse off in all of them because I have professional pride and they are paying me to do a job. If Dyche can't do the same for £5 million a year I doubt he'll get another job or a new contract.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

How much would it cost to sack dyche today?

How much extra prize money for each place?

Just get it done!

 

[Terrarian]

Well for me it puts to bed the wondering whether the likes of Dyche could progress a club when operating with better players(yes we have better players than Burnley did), Allardyce the same, both carry on playing the percentages and boring the life out of us, almost like they're afraid to take chances.

I wonder if the opposite would ever be true, could Pep etc do the job at the bottom end of the table, I know we had a small sample size with carlo but with covid etc its hard to really judge that.

If I was a kid growing up now, not a chance in hell I'd be picking Dyche's Everton to support, I'd imagine that goes on a lot around the city. You'd need to be in a dyed in blue family or why would you bother watching the dullest team on planet earth.

I've got really really bad toothache and it's still preferable to watching Dyche's Everton.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I was not arsed either way truth be told. Wasn’t arsed when Iwobi scored either, just shrugged because it was deserved. I think it was two points dropped regardless, a draw doesn’t do us any good. I’m embarrassed at the performance as I have been for the majority of performances under this manager. He has actually turned us into his Burnley team that I used to laugh at back in the day, that time we played them when the fat kopite was our manager I remember thinking they were the worst footballing team I’d ever seen in my life.

Not arsed about a last minute equaliser that’s an additional point towards the season’s objectives when it’s an absolute critical juncture for the club that we stay in the PL? (this is not my minimum expectation before you start shrieking)

Dyche must have done a good job last season and a half if we’ve gone from working about every single goal in relegation battles to now not even being arsed about picking up points because we’re so comfortable.

 

[MikeH72]

Not arsed about a last minute equaliser that’s an additional point towards the season’s objectives when it’s an absolute critical juncture for the club that we stay in the PL? (this is not my minimum expectation before you start shrieking)

Dyche must have done a good job last season and a half if we’ve gone from working about every single goal in relegation battles to now not even being arsed about picking up points because we’re so comfortable.

Well if he’s done such a great job and has us comfortable then that goal and point at home to Fulham won’t be absolutely critical to the future of the club will it?

 

[John from Bootle]

I was not arsed either way truth be told.

Oh, wow. Never put anybody on ignore before. Congratulations. What a knob.

 

[MikeH72]

Oh, wow. Never put anybody on ignore before. Congratulations. What a knob.

Oh no please don’t put me on ignore

 

[Eggs]

So you don't think being paid £5 million is enough for him to go above and beyond Eggs? I've done several fixed term jobs recently, and worked my arse off in all of them because I have professional pride and they are paying me to do a job. If Dyche can't do the same for £5 million a year I doubt he'll get another job or a new contract.

….you’d hope so. I have no doubt about his/their professionalism but I don’t think it’s an ideal scenario to have so many in limbo in key positions.

We may be seeing a bit of it with DCL. Played well at Ipswich but seemed more withdrawn against physicality of Fulham’s defenders on Saturday. He’ll be competitive, he’ll continue to lead the line well but I just think there’s an element of doubt when the going is really tough.

Dyche, Thelwell, Stone and Woan all in a bit of limbo as well as a number of players. If TFG are fixed in their determination to change, then we need people in post who can have certainty to make those big calls for today and tomorrow.

 

[Eggs]

I think from what people say the bit in bold was certainly true last year , I think he probably did a good job in the circumstances. I’m not convinced he automatically gets a free pass for this season though .

….absolutely.