2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[GrandOldTeam]

Because he was brought in to keep us up, not for the future and despite keeping us up, there were continuous poor records being broken such as 13 games without a win as an example. The forthcoming season was going to be the last ever at Goodison and every effort should have been made to give it a fitting farewell. That was never going to happen keeping Dyche on. All you would get is a season of boredom and frustration with plenty of poor runs, the odd good win from a big name and then hopefully enough draws and points to not relegated.

That is fine for THE very badly ran club but it is definitely not fine for the joy starved supporters who have had years of descending into nothingness. That is why i cannot wait for the takeover to be complete. Everything about Everton sucks until that happens.

He did that after Bournemouth though?

What was different the summer after that, to the summer just gone?

He had more credit in the bank last summer, than he did after Bournemouth.

Just because it's the last season at Goodison? Or just because your patience ran out?

 

[Lob]

He did that after Bournemouth though?

What was different the summer after that, to the summer just gone?

He had more credit in the bank last summer, than he did after Bournemouth.

Just because it's the last season at Goodison? Or just because your patience ran out?

I would have been happy for him to be gone after his first season ended tbh. I think people sort of accepted the next season because of the final day victory against Bournemouth and everyone knew there was going to be issues with FFP. There were no excuses left this summer though. That should have been it for me. Thanks and good luck.

And yes the patience has definitely ran out, for me anyway.

 

[ToffeeScot]

You can Scott. I argued on here before a ball was we hadn't improved the team to take us away from the bottom. Just like I had in summers before that - like the season after Bournemouth, 2 weeks prior our first game we'd signed Ashley Young and Danjuma. I mean, there's negligent and then there's Everton.

We can, and have argued on here whether this team is better or worse than last season - what can't argue against though is the fact we didn't invest in the team - it was another window in which we made a profit. At some point, you've got to spend. Ask Wolves. Ask Lopetegui.

When we started the season with a defence including Young, Keane, Mykolenko and an unfit Tarkowski to a team who'd just spent £200m+ net.

We also got very lucky with injuries last season - we couldn't expect to be so lucky this.

We all expect progression, we got that last season in spades in terms of point total. But take any team that's averaged 41 points for 3 seasons on the spin, and make them sell more than they spend every window and it's the very definition of circling the drain.

We could have started the season with JOB in that defence, but Dyche doesn't fancy it because he's a manager who reverts to type.

I think more so the point I'm making about Dyche is that he doesn't show enough progress in terms of his style of play. I think it would be difficult to improve on that 48 point total but we could definitely improve in terms of the football we play but Dyche doesn't or seemingly cannot. I don't really believe the notion that he's peddled before about playing more progressive with better or other players. I think he has his style and that's who he is as a manager.

I think Dyche and the way he manages is of a type which is now a rarity in modern football, especially the PL, and has its limits in points totals and how it looks on the eye.

I just hope with the new owners we follow the Brighton model in terms of how they pick managers. It's utterly seamless from one to the next. The philosophy of the club and blueprint is set and it's one which fits modern football and the way it's played and structured.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I would have been happy for him to be gone after his first season ended tbh. I think people sort of accepted the next season because of the final day victory against Bournemouth and everyone knew there was going to be issues with FFP. There were no excuses left this summer though. That should have been it for me. Thanks and good luck.

And yes the patience has definitely ran out, for me anyway.

I think that's everyone, I don't think you'd find a fan calling for a new contract for Dyche, or wanting him beyond this season.

We could have started the season with JOB in that defence, but Dyche doesn't fancy it because he's a manager who reverts to type.

I think more so the point I'm making about Dyche is that he doesn't show enough progress in terms of his style of play. I think it would be difficult to improve on that 48 point total but we could definitely improve in terms of the football we play but Dyche doesn't or seemingly cannot. I don't really believe the notion that he's peddled before about playing more progressive with better or other players. I think he has his style and that's who he is as a manager.

I think Dyche and the way he manages is of a type which is now a rarity in modern football, especially the PL, and has its limits in points totals and how it looks on the eye.

I just hope with the new owners we follow the Brighton model in terms of how they pick managers. It's utterly seamless from one to the next. The philosophy of the club and blueprint is set and it's one which fits modern football and the way it's played and structured.

Problem is, I don't think we'll ever know. I don't think we've given him that opportunity. What he did at Burnley and how he set them up in the Championship was a world away to what he did in the Prem.

He's a pragmatist and what we needed at the time, and I believe, still do.

TFG, Bramley Moore and the ability and necessity to spend changes the picture.

You can long for better days, say you don't think Dyche is the right man and still credit both the circumstances and job Dyche has done.

I've said it before but I think Everton history will be kind to him - in years to come we'll remember a spell in which he kept our heads above water.

 

[Lob]

I think that's everyone, I don't think you'd find a fan calling for a new contract for Dyche, or wanting him beyond this season.

That's true but there have certainly been people trying to make out he is doing a better job than he actually is doing. Some people have even been comparing the points tally at the start of this season to last season to make out that he isn't doing bad when the truth is he had a terrible start last season as well. It is comparing bad against bad and this season a point less than last seasons bad. Its bewildering. Been some belting posts elevating him on here, cherry picking dates all sorts. People need to just say it as it is. No need to elevate.

We have got a very limited and dated manager who has a season target of not getting relegated and is playing some really poor football, getting really poor results which is all you would expect from someone of his capability and we have him because of years of mismanagement and are stuck with him until the take over is completed and the new owners decide what they want to do to move the club forwards.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

That's true but there have certainly been people trying to make out he is doing a better job than he actually is doing. Some people have even been comparing the points tally at the start of this season to last season to make out that he isn't doing bad when the truth is he had a terrible start last season as well. It is comparing bad against bad and this season a point less than last seasons bad. Its bewildering. Been some belting posts elevating him on here, cherry picking dates all sorts. People need to just say it as it is. No need to elevate.

We have got a very limited and dated manager who has a season target of not getting relegated and is playing some really poor football, getting really poor results which is all you would expect from someone of his capability and we have him because of years of mismanagement and are stuck with him until the take over is completed and the new owners decide what they want to do to move the club forwards.

But still did a decent job didn't he?

I am pretty sure everyone knows that the problems existed long before Dyche arrived. I know i do and i get no comfort out of any of it whatsoever. i also know that he did a decent job last season keeping us up in difficult circumstances.

He did what he came here to do last season and that is when his tenure should have came to an end. Expecting anything better from such a limited and dated manager is a fools errand. He is currently doing exactly as i would expect him to do no matter what players he has at his disposal.

 

[Lob]

But still did a decent job didn't he?

Decent keeping us up considering 'difficult circumstances' doesn't mean i thought he was a great manager and doesn't change the fact that were also many appalling periods throughout the season and the start of this season has been equally poor, terrible in fact regardless of comparing it to the start of last season which was also poor.

 

[derek duvall]

I think that's everyone, I don't think you'd find a fan calling for a new contract for Dyche, or wanting him beyond this season.



Problem is, I don't think we'll ever know. I don't think we've given him that opportunity. What he did at Burnley and how he set them up in the Championship was a world away to what he did in the Prem.

He's a pragmatist and what we needed at the time, and I believe, still do.

TFG, Bramley Moore and the ability and necessity to spend changes the picture.

You can long for better days, say you don't think Dyche is the right man and still credit both the circumstances and job Dyche has done.

I've said it before but I think Everton history will be kind to him - in years to come we'll remember a spell in which he kept our heads above water.

Sadly not for me. In years to come, I’ll remember him as arrogant narcissistic, who produced prehistoric football. A crap football manager (always has been) who continuously threw the players under the bus and came up with all the excuses in world to cover up his deficiencies. I get others will hail him though and that’s fine too.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Sadly not for me. In years to come, I’ll remember him as arrogant narcissistic, who produced prehistoric football. A crap football manager (always has been) who continuously threw the players under the bus and came up with all the excuses in world to cover up his deficiencies. I get others will hail him though and that’s fine too.

You'll be in the minority.

Whether we like it or not - if you was to rank individual Everton managerial achievement/effort considering all circumstances - there wouldn't be many above Dyche since the Prem began.

 

[slipstream86]

Everyone likening Dyche to a dinosaur I think is really unfair...


Many species of dinosaur are believed by academic consensus to have been highly adept attackers, with exceptionally advanced team tactics, such as the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park.

 

[MikeH72]

I don’t like him and want him sacked.

 

[jazzy]

I don’t like him and want him sacked.

Agree but we have to have a replacement lined up ready and able to start right away.

We cannot afford to throw any more points away

 

[Marius57]

I don’t like him and want him sacked.

Seems a bit out the blue mate considering that 14 years ago you once said something about a player that doesn’t play for us anymore.

 

[marsh]

7 league wins since December 2023. Really decent that. (It's November 2024 now)

Knocked out on pens to the mighty Southampton at home in the league cup, not bad, we did excellent getting to pens to be honest against such a great side.

After a nightmare run of fixtures 2 wins in 11 league games is decent.

All hail Dyche our hero that is making us great again

 

[blueboy72]

7 league wins since December 2023. Really decent that. (It's November 2024 now)

Knocked out on pens to the mighty Southampton at home in the league cup, not bad, we did excellent getting to pens to be honest against such a great side.

After a nightmare run of fixtures 2 wins in 11 league games is decent.

All hail Dyche our hero that is making us great again

We’ve lost 3 cup competitions in them 11 months to Southampton like you say and Luton and Fulham both at home, that’s a disgrace that the dychette’s seem to have forgotten about. But 1 defeat in 7 maybe he will be up for manager of the month