2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

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Doubtful we’re getting a world class manager in our current position - but a competent one would do
It’s rolling the dice at this stage.
Redundant point as we ain't going to be appointing him.

No one likes this squad of players mate! All anyone is saying is that the same group of players got us 48 points last season and now they are on track for 35/36 at best with Dyche. It's a close call whether the guy keeps us up this year. Factor in that the DOF and the manager don't see eye to eye on recruitment and it’s better to sack him and bring a new manager in.

Things like contracts running down don’t help this squad.
We are at a real risk of going down regardless. (I don't think we will though)

If we are getting a new manager we need a plan, not some random bloke to get us 3 points from some mythical new manager bounce. That just puts us in the same position again.

We seem to do this every year or two now and we always say never again yet get in the same position each time. Its madness.
We are now at the stage where heads have gone and panic setting in. I agree a new manager with a plan needs to come in. Bringing in just anyone or “Lampard” isn’t rational thinking.
 
This i think is the imponderable mate, I've always been fairly confident he wouldn't get the bullet under the Moshiri regime, no one knows or can say with certainty what TFG think, will or could do. I dont and i think anyone else really knows.

This is far more feeling our way in the dark then before the takeover.

Im very curious to see what they do from here.
Right now we are 3pts above leicester but our goal difference would keep us safe. Leicester deserved much more v city than we did and on another day they get the 3pts. It's getting too close for comfort now.

They must have spoken to some managers before the takeover surely. All links are quiet now though
 
Whoever replaces him has the same problem he, and the managers before him had.

A team that is relegation fodder without pace, or goals. This seasons objective was no different to the seasons prior - survival.

Before a ball was kicked, I said I'd take 17th and above going into January with new owners. We're crap.

Those new owners now need to back the manager, or sack him and back the replacement.

It's too easy to blame the manager. Too easy to blame individual players. Ultimately, Pickford, Branthwaite and possibly Ndiaye aside, none are good enough. You replace Dyche and this team still go to April/May not safe. You switch Mykolenko for Young, Calvert-Lewin for Broja, or Harrison for Lindstrom and we're still crap.

We've averaged 41 points the past 3 seasons - the margins are too small to allow a manager, who knows he's off, managing a team with half the squad who also know they're off in 5 months.
 
If you don’t attack you can’t score. If you don’t score you can’t win. I get that with him defensive stability comes first but there has to be more than that. Turning a couple draws into wins even if you lose a couple more is worth it in he end. He doesn’t know how to do it or simply won’t. His time needs to be up.
 

Whoever replaces him has the same problem he, and the managers before him had.

A team that is relegation fodder without pace, or goals. This seasons objective was no different to the seasons prior - survival.

Before a ball was kicked, I said I'd take 17th and above going into January with new owners. We're crap.

Those new owners now need to back the manager, or sack him and back the replacement.

It's too easy to blame the manager. Too easy to blame individual players. Ultimately, Pickford, Branthwaite and possibly Ndiaye aside, none are good enough. You replace Dyche and this team still go to April/May not safe. You switch Mykolenko for Young, Calvert-Lewin for Broja, or Harrison for Lindstrom and we're still crap.

We've averaged 41 points the past 3 seasons - the margins are too small to allow a manager, who knows he's off, managing a team with half the squad who also know they're off in 5 months.
We currently have the lowest shots on target by a whopping 20%, we need a new manager, it will change the whole dynamic, the players are clearly not happy, the fans arnt happy, the football is dire. An interesting poll would do you still watch the game. I watched half of the forest game and before that..err can’t remember because we are awful and it’s not worth watching
 
Right now we are 3pts above leicester but our goal difference would keep us safe. Leicester deserved much more v city than we did and on another day they get the 3pts. It's getting too close for comfort now.

They must have spoken to some managers before the takeover surely. All links are quiet now though

There is a red line for sure mate, he, they and we all know it - its a results industry.

What would have happened when they came in - is they would of said to Dyche "Your our man, we trust you at the moment to lead the team, but this industry that is entirely dependent on results and we expect those, as for the future that is also dependent on results and this is our ambition.......". 100% this happened as i noticed a change in him in talking about results.

They will have sounded out managers for sure, i know Moyes turned down Wolves as he was hoping for a seat "elsewhere".

That's the twist however - many wont be happy with a Moyes, but we wont be bringing in an Iraola to change our style of play in early to late Jan, that takes time, Bournemouth tanked a good 10-15 games before they clicked, we dont have that luxury. We also have very limited players that the best needs to be brought out of - if that's even possible and i have my doubts.
 
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Failure to score a goal in 7 of the last 9 games is absolutely terrifying and grounds for dismissal on its own in my book. The two purple patches this fella had, last December and April, are clearly the outliers at this point. Everything before, in between, and what we’ve seen this season is the norm and what he produces.

There is nothing to suggest that results are going to improve with this manager when he continues to select the same players and plays the same system. It is not producing any goals. Quite simply, if you can’t score goals you can’t win games of football. He is praying that the defence and Pickford are perfect every game in order for us to stand a chance of picking up a point, never mind all three. In this day and age you can’t expect to get by like this all the time. Lack of goals will catch up with you when you defend like we did for Forest’s goals yesterday.

I see no point continuing with this manager. He will never change his methods and, as results have shown, he is not getting the bare minimum out of this squad. Every metric tells you everything is getting worse from this point last season to now. Purely viewed in a vacuum and isolate our performances only, it is woeful and deserving of receiving his P45. Yet he may survive, unjustly, due to there being, shockingly, three inferior sides to this shambolic team he’s created.
 

We currently have the lowest shots on target by a whopping 20%, we need a new manager, it will change the whole dynamic, the players are clearly not happy, the fans arnt happy, the football is dire. An interesting poll would do you still watch the game. I watched half of the forest game and before that..err can’t remember because we are awful and it’s not worth watching

We were the same before Dyche too.

Lack of pace/ability in the final third dictates a lack of goals which dictates relegation scrap.
 
We had players turned us down because of Dyche, do you want this guy buying players because I don’t, he keeps turning down players with pace, a lot of this is him

I don't think for one minute Dyche is telling the club to sign Sportings 4th choice academy lad.

Or Beto. Or OBrien. Or Danjuma who we were trying to sign long before Dyche.

I suspect the players who are £0 upfront, like Young, and Harrison are Dyche. Anyone we spend money on, DOF.
 
My point is we'd scored 15 goals in 20 games when Dyche turned up. The season before that, only the relegated teams scored less.

Long before him I'd be moaning on here the lack of pace/goals in the team dictates bad times.

You're kidding yourself if you think lack of goals is resolved when Dyche leaves. We need to bring new players in.
 

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