2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[davek]

Already we've had a small cliff edge, i think some thought TFG would come in and new broom everything and sack Dyche in the first week or after the first loss in their regime. We're at the half way point of the season, if it hasn't happened it gets less likely (not impossible) he wont be here, especially if he keeps tipping along pointwise.

Ultimately if he stays for the season, that leaves people in the uncomfortable position of sticking to their guns or turning on the ownerships decision making at this early stage.

When you put down any boundary in any walk of life there is usually some sort of protest around that loss of influence or perceived control - i think that's what will happen and TFG will put a boundary down with the fan base.

I agree. Dyche's future is a touchstone issue for some of our more excitable supporters. If the Freidkins dont hand those supporters what they want then they'll face at first grumbling voices. But that can quickly turn to disgruntlement and then from there outright opposition.

TFG have to show their mettle here in not doing what's best for their reputation with fans who have been used to flexing their muscles over managers and getting their way but rather what's best for the stability of the club.

 

[Delargeinho]

They're defo a bottom 6 outfit. Last season was a remarkable effort, but an outlier. It's tricked us into believing this season would be a cakewalk.

We are by far not a top half team and closer to relegation than to Europe, but also by far not a team that should battle for relegation. We should get mid 40s with this squad at least.

I asked for a boring season before the start, dull top half of the bottom half, aware with dull football to watch, but no sorrows to be involved in the direct battle.

 

[Marius57]

They're defo a bottom 6 outfit. Last season was a remarkable effort, but an outlier. It's tricked us into believing this season would be a cakewalk.

An outlier or the only 2 seasons of less than 40 points in 20 years are the outliers

 

[Lob]

I agree. Dyche's future is a touchstone issue for some of our more excitable supporters. If the Freidkins dont hand those supporters what they want then they'll face at first grumbling voices. But that can quickly turn to disgruntlement and then from there outright opposition.

TFG have to show their mettle here in not doing what's best for their reputation with fans who have been used to flexing their muscles over managers and getting their way but rather what's best for the stability of the club.

When was the last time you shook the sheets mate. Might want to give it a try sooner rather than later.

 

[Neiler]

I agree. Dyche's future is a touchstone issue for some of our more excitable supporters. If the Freidkins dont hand those supporters what they want then they'll face at first grumbling voices. But that can quickly turn to disgruntlement and then from there outright opposition.

TFG have to show their mettle here in not doing what's best for their reputation with fans who have been used to flexing their muscles over managers and getting their way but rather what's best for the stability of the club.

You know i used to chortle at Spurs and WHU, the whole we need a new manager every year, to play the "West Ham" and "Spurs" way. A constant cycle of appointing an attacking manager, get board of that appoint a pragmatic manager, get board of that and then go back to an attacking manager all the while threading water.

That's exactly what we have become under Moshiri and done it worse and much of the fan base is on the adrenaline and dopamine hits that come with the drama of that.

We need to get back to being a respected football institution, one that takes pride in innovation, principals, sustainability and building and safeguarding the club as institution of substance.

We need off the reactionary rollercoaster.

 

[Ferguson1878]

You know i used to chortle at Spurs and WHU, the whole we need a new manager every year, to play the "West Ham" and "Spurs" way. A constant cycle of appointing an attacking manager, get board of that appoint a pragmatic manager, get board of that and then go back to an attacking manager all the while threading water.

That's exactly what we have become under Moshiri and done it worse and much of the fan base is on the adrenaline and dopamine hits that come with the drama of that.

We need to get back to being a respected football institution, one that takes pride in innovation, principals, sustainability and building and safeguarding the club as institution of substance.

We need off the reactionary rollercoaster

So you think Benitez or lampard should have been kept on ?

 

[Blue peter]

The club over the last thirty years has been the epitome of ‘it’s the taking part that counts’ which has now seemingly extended to our PL survival.

We should be doing better (if not a whole lot) with these players. Just winnning vs Bournemouth and even holding on for a point against Villa would have given us four additional points which would have given us a six point margin from the drop zone.

 

[Neiler]

So you think Benitez or lampard should have been kept on ?

Benitez shouldn't have been appointed, i have said many times i don't even think he's a bad manager, i just hate him. Totaly biased and blinkered in my opinion on him. Make no apologies for that mate.

Lampard i would have backed right up to the Brighton home game, red line - for any manager (including Dyche) is relegation, thats were we got to Lampard. Would i have liked Lampard not to be in that position and take us on - sure 100%.

Before that i would have shouted for stability and continue with Koeman, Allardyce and Silva for sure - unpopularly so.

My strongly held belief is managers need time.

 

[Abertonian]

You know i used to chortle at Spurs and WHU, the whole we need a new manager every year, to play the "West Ham" and "Spurs" way. A constant cycle of appointing an attacking manager, get board of that appoint a pragmatic manager, get board of that and then go back to an attacking manager all the while threading water.

That's exactly what we have become under Moshiri and done it worse and much of the fan base is on the adrenaline and dopamine hits that come with the drama of that.

We need to get back to being a respected football institution, one that takes pride in innovation, principals, sustainability and building and safeguarding the club as institution of substance.

We need off the reactionary rollercoaster.

There would be nothing reactionary about binning a manager with the same record as SD. Every other club in the league would have long ago. He is still in the dugout not because of his managerial ability but rather that the financial incompetence at the club meant we couldn't afford to pay him off.

I agree about the chopping and changing styles etc but clearly 1 point a game Sean is not a style that will build unity between the club and its fanbase, attract players or help us restore our reputation as a footballing institution.

If that's what people aspire to why watch football.

 

[Blue peter]

I think this is why many will turn on the TFG after a shot while, people have gotten used to the Lord of the Flies fan influence approach to running the club, maybe a whole recent generation.

This wont hold any truck with the Texans.

Disagree respectfully mate. Whilst that has certainly been true in the past and I think to some degree there is a wanton need for this type of activity, I think the majority of the fanbase have understood the challenges he has faced. It has been this season where the tide has turned (it certainly has for me).

He’s been here two years, and so far this season we play even worse football, and the results are worse, some of which he directly had obvious and clear influence over e,gl Bournemouth at home.

We now have in place a new ownership team, so my reticence as to whether they make the correct appointment is not as bad as it was with Moshiri, but it’s just whether the people they are after are available. I wouldn’t have expected them to get rid this quickly anyway, but they are running out of road if results keep on the way they are.

 

[Taifi gorm]

I hope he gets some inspiration from the pressers. Them calling out harrison, myko and lindstrom as poor (0?) assists and goals has to push him to sack off at least one of them (myko for patto and switch sides with young would be my favoured choice, and play linstrom over harrison)

Yeah. Nope!

 

[Tel001]

Most people would just look at what he's achieved in terms of keeping two rank PL outfits like Burnley and Everton up in the PL for all but one season in 14 and handing them well over a 30% winning rate on average for all those seasons.

He won 8 league games in the last 13 months

Only Burton Albion have won less games in the entire 92 team football pyramid of English football

He’s won 25 of his last 100 games across us and Burnley

We have the lowest possession stats in the league

We are statistically the worst counter attacking team in the league

He went on the longest winless run in our entire 147 year history

He averages less than a goal a game through his career

He has won 4 from 43 fixtures that he has had in August

He has not changed his approach since he started his management career

 

[davek]

He won 8 league games in the last 13 months

Only Burton Albion have won less games in the entire 92 team football pyramid of English football

He’s won 25 of his last 100 games across us and Burnley

We have the lowest possession stats in the league

We are statistically the worst counter attacking team in the league

He went on the longest winless run in our entire 147 year history

He averages less than a goal a game through his career

He has won 4 from 43 fixtures that he has had in August

He has not changed his approach since he started his management career

Statistics schmatistics.

 

[davek]

You know i used to chortle at Spurs and WHU, the whole we need a new manager every year, to play the "West Ham" and "Spurs" way. A constant cycle of appointing an attacking manager, get board of that appoint a pragmatic manager, get board of that and then go back to an attacking manager all the while threading water.

That's exactly what we have become under Moshiri and done it worse and much of the fan base is on the adrenaline and dopamine hits that come with the drama of that.

We need to get back to being a respected football institution, one that takes pride in innovation, principals, sustainability and building and safeguarding the club as institution of substance.

We need off the reactionary rollercoaster.

Sadly, it's been the only way some of our fans have been able to get excited about their club: by a feeling of satisfaction at having pitchforked out another manager and the intrigue that goes into the selection of another manager.

The withdrawal symptoms are kicking in badly after 2 years of one manager. They need to get their next hit.

 

[street end]

We're better away from home and al the negativity.

, 1 away win in 2024.