Ah yes, everything pro-Dyche is logical, everything against him is just clamour
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Of course.
Football fans are fickle by nature.
No one has any patience anymore.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
They should concern themselves with one thing: aiding the current manager in avoiding relegation...something he's well placed to tell them about.
Dyche should be the senior figure at the club right now. He's proven himself here by keeping us from relegation when I for one thought we were dead and gone for each of the previous two seasons.
They need to stump up cash this window and worry about any consequences later.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
And there's those who think Dyche did a very good job in almost impossible circumstances for two years but now think his methods are providing diminishing returns and wish to see some action from our new owners.
I think Sean Dyche is an effective manager in a very specific set of circumstances. But when those circumstances start to change - and they have - then somebody with a different skill set is required.
People like to make this all about extremes - but the moderate mainstream fan doesn't live there. Plenty in the middle see the need for change. I hope we win today - which will make immediate change much more unlikely. But the three points would help to rebalance the risk-reward tightrope the owners are currently negotiating.
I don't want change for change's sake. We will have change in the next five months regardless. I want change to give us a better chance of staying up. But if he gets a win today, my need for change becomes less urgent. If we don't, I'll continue to trust my gut.
No I think the truth is somewhere in between.Ah yes, everything pro-Dyche is logical, everything against him is just clamour
No one at the moment can possible think that our stats are good enough over the course of the season, but equally both sides of the argument cherry pick their own points to display what they want to show.
That's just life.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Maybe from some there is.
I blame Moshiri for the state of the finances and for the utter mess of the past 4-5 years, I blame two successive DoFs for either dreadful recruitment or allowing interference from managers and the chairman and owner. I blame Kenwright for Moshiri and for putting himself and his ego always before the club, and for constant meddling. I blame fat waiter for doing his best to destroy the club.
What do I blame Dyche for? For the absolutely dreadful football for three seasons and for convincing some that playing for a draw at home is acceptable, for thinking that 25-30% possession at home is acceptable, for thinking that just being a point better than the third lowest team is a wonderful achievement.
But most of all I blame him for serving up this absolute horrific spectacle at Goodison in what should have been a final goodbye to the old lady and now will more be remembered for 19 dreadful performances and thinking we should be grateful for that.
I get it all mate and as much as i like to stir the pot and take the mick, id never criticize another Evertonian for their opinion on it, for what people have been through with the club and how its been supported for almost half a decade of adversity at this point.
I think there isn't one decision that raises all boats to be honest, people want to believe there is and it the manager thing, i don't believe it myself, problems at he club are well defined and if i believed it was just the manger that was the cause of our ills, id be in the vanguard for change.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I've said the whole vacuum is an exercise in how well you whole tension myself. You either react or respond.
There is a red line with Dyche for all of us, its where Lampard got to for me - ill be surprised if we get there.
My take on Dyche is that he's the only one who really knows what he's doing at a club threatened by relegation. He's the only one standing between us and a collapse.
I have no faith in any replacement picked by any owner to solve our mess. We got Dyche two years ago and it was a complete fluke that he happened to be available and was prepared to do this job. Now some people are wanting him gone and for us to stir into the abyss again.
It's beyond belief.
Yeah, it's only been a few years with Dyche specifically, no patience at all here. He's also getting away with talking about the club and fans in a negative fashion but he's a man's man or something, so it's all okay.
I get the sentiment, and I get what Neiler is saying in that, but he's also using it as he sees fit - a lot of people, me included, said they'd hold their hands up if he did well, but he hasn't and, in fatc, he's doing worse, so the dislike is even stronger; it's stacking up, if you will. If you read it selectively, then yeah, it seems like we're all impatient knobheads - the full statement with the condition makes sense though, I'd say.
This is what I've been saying for ages.
The right tool for the job.
He has been up to this point, the question is, is he the right tool for the job going forward and if not, how long does he get to rectify that and then who is and when do we change if he can't adapt?
That does not have to equate to "SACK HIM, SACK HIM NOW". That's how we ended up here via the likes of Allardyce and Koeman.
We've got a fair few, like.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's certainly the case on social media. I think most Evertonians though are happy to see Dyche continue as long as he's gone by the end of the season and as long as he keeps us out of the relegation zone this season.
Fair post mate and I'm open minded on others view - as much as i can stir it - I've said myself there is a redline.
It is, but look at it from this point of view regarding your second statement:
Last year, we used stats, xG and other nonsense to prove how great Dyche is doing.
This year, "statistics shmatistics" and so on.
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