2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[davek]

And there's those who think Dyche did a very good job in almost impossible circumstances for two years but now think his methods are providing diminishing returns and wish to see some action from our new owners.

I think Sean Dyche is an effective manager in a very specific set of circumstances. But when those circumstances start to change - and they have - then somebody with a different skill set is required.

People like to make this all about extremes - but the moderate mainstream fan doesn't live there. Plenty in the middle see the need for change. I hope we win today - which will make immediate change much more unlikely. But the three points would help to rebalance the risk-reward tightrope the owners are currently negotiating.

I don't want change for change's sake. We will have change in the next five months regardless. I want change to give us a better chance of staying up. But if he gets a win today, my need for change becomes less urgent. If we don't, I'll continue to trust my gut.

You sack managers who've lost the plot and results are heavily and constantly going against them and when the players heads have dropped.

Does that look remotely the case at Everton right now?

 

[Groucho]

xG

Oh I hate stats, and no one will ever be able to convince me to take whatever xG is seriously.

That's a made up thing isnt it?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Win, lose or draw.

See you here after the game for some box office posts

 

[DualityNSNO]

Oh I hate stats, and no one will ever be able to convince me to take whatever xG is seriously.

That's a made up thing isnt it?

Everything is a made up thing if we want to be pedantic

It is a valid analytical stat though, sadly.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Win, lose or draw.

See you here after the game for some box office posts

It's what makes this place great

 

[davek]

Win, lose or draw.

See you here after the game for some box office posts

I might be checking out the bike parking spaces at the stadium.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

It's what makes this place great

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[Abertonian]

I might be checking out the bike parking spaces at the stadium.

Sean's might be free around 5pm

 

[Neiler]

My take on Dyche is that he's the only one who really knows what he's doing at a club threatened by relegation. He's the only one standing between us and a collapse.

I have no faith in any replacement picked by any owner to solve our mess. We got Dyche two years ago and it was a complete fluke that he happened to be available and was prepared to do this job. Now some people are wanting him gone and for us to stir into the abyss again.

It's beyond belief.

Have good mates that are Leeds fans and on the last day Vs Bournemouth and they were relegated we were out having pints, they were gutted of course getting relegated - but the consensus among them was the difference between us, them and Leicester is we got to Dyche first.

The part thats often not acknowledged is we brought Dyche in to play the %s, be pragmatic and squeeze enough points to survive. Now we dont want him because because he plays %s, is pragmatic and is trying to squeeze enough point to survive.

I think many overestimate just how good we are - the posts saying "we would be far higher up the table with a different manager" scare me.

 

[Eggs]

Ah yes, everything pro-Dyche is logical, everything against him is just clamour

….again, that’s not what I said.

There’s lots to be critical of and it’s quite right that’s highlighted, I actually voted for him to go primarily because I don’t like a Manager (and coaches) in contract limbo when the club is in such a dire position. What’s not right is the propensity to blame him for everything and that’s what I try to address.

 

[Groucho]

Everything is a made up thing if we want to be pedantic

It is a valid analytical stat though, sadly.

I have, like, medical qualification certificates from several universities, and I'm currently doing academic research aiming for a PhD, and I still cannot in any way see what value xG brings.

It sounds like a Hyundai model.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

I might be checking out the bike parking spaces at the stadium.

I can't wait to let your tires down ha.

 

[Groucho]

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[billyblue80]

You sack managers who've lost the plot and results are heavily and constantly going against them and when the players heads have dropped.

Does that look remotely the case at Everton right now?

We cannot win a home game so yes

 

[degsy]

He won 8 league games in the last 13 months

Only Burton Albion have won less games in the entire 92 team football pyramid of English football

He’s won 25 of his last 100 games across us and Burnley

We have the lowest possession stats in the league

We are statistically the worst counter attacking team in the league

He went on the longest winless run in our entire 147 year history

He averages less than a goal a game through his career

He has won 4 from 43 fixtures that he has had in August

@Neiler

He has not changed his approach since he started his management career

He's has enough time

It's not lack of time keeping him here, it's previous incompetence both financially and businesswise
He's not got long.
The worry is May might be too long