2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Dixieslaces]

The man is six months into 2.5 year contract of employment worth £100,000 per week at a Premier League club after being unemployed for a year having won about 4 of 30 games the last time he had a job.

Doubt he cares one iota whether he's at Glasto or Finch Farm tbh, it's all golden either way for him.

True. Landed.On.His.Feet.

 

[monkeyandy]

Oh to be a middling top flight manager. Work for 6 months, set for life.

Exactly so given his current position there are 3 conclusions…. He needs a bigger pension pot which he added to by keeping us in the league with a bonus of between a reported £3-5 million after 6 months work, he has seen Mosh’s history with managers and is expecting 12 months in place then a sacking with full contract value payed up, another £10 million or he actually wants to prove he’s a good manager and earn his salary. TBF I’d be happy with any of these scenarios if I had no affiliation to EFC and that’s the problem we’re seen as a quick buck due to our revolving door of managers

 

[Titus Shambles]

again do the maths
Dyche W5 D6 L7
FL W3 D6 L 11

Dyche got more from a poor team than FL could and do not forget the downward out of control spiral we were already on. Dyche did well to stop the spiral and got us playing better and more as a team. More than deserves another chance

Yes Dyche is a better manager than Lampard and got more out of the team. I'd wager 90% of professional football managers in the country could have done better than Lampard. It says more about FL than it does about SD.

And my maths is solid: it is impossible to be 'nearly relegated' when there are 54 points still to play for and 18 games to go. Even more so when the gap to safety is 1 point. If we're calling that "a miracle" and 17th a success then the bar could not be lower at this football club.

 

[Titus Shambles]

Whatever his salary is, it's worth every penny because he kept us up.

Hark at how quickly some people forget what a perilous position we were in when Frank left.

Back in Jan (or Feb or Mar or Apr or May) it was results that were desperately needed, forget effing entertainment.
First and foremost, it's a results business

From a business point of view, you are correct. Dyche has been paid about £5.5m for his half-season, in which we stayed in a league worth at least £120m tv money alone.

As for 'perilous position', I largely agree, but it's still somewhat debateable. Yes we had blown golden opportunites under Frank and kept him far too long, but the fact still remains: Dyche had 18 games to overturn a 1 point deficit with a better goal difference if I recall. He achieved his remit with half an hour of the season to go, but for me it is not the miracle or mission impossible some people make it out to be.

 

[monkeyandy]

From a business point of view, you are correct. Dyche has been paid about £5.5m for his half-season, in which we stayed in a league worth at least £120m tv money alone.

As for 'perilous position', I largely agree, but it's still somewhat debateable. Yes we had blown golden opportunites under Frank and kept him far too long, but the fact still remains: Dyche had 18 games to overturn a 1 point deficit with a better goal difference if I recall. He achieved his remit with half an hour of the season to go, but for me it is not the miracle or mission impossible some people make it out to be.

I agree and thats the horrible position we now find ourselves in, perennial relegation fodder who constantly need ‘a saviour’ paying over the odds to a manager to keep us in the league with a short sighted player recruitment policy and…… recycle
The only improvement this season was a £0 spend in January and a huge clear out this summer ok the under 12’s may be playing on opening day next season but the ffp will be sorted

 

[Titus Shambles]

I agree and thats the horrible position we now find ourselves in, perennial relegation fodder who constantly need ‘a saviour’ paying over the odds to a manager to keep us in the league with a short sighted player recruitment policy and…… recycle
The only improvement this season was a £0 spend in January and a huge clear out this summer ok the under 12’s may be playing on opening day next season but the ffp will be sorted

Being the only team in the Premier League to recruit no one and not spend a penny in January was not a masterplan or masterstroke - we got lucky. Let's not pretend otherwise. We had months to prepare for the winter window and still had zero plan beyond trying to get a loan for Danjuma on the last day or so.

We were 30 minutes and 1 goal away from relegation on the final day. That is not how proper clubs operate. But we are not a proper football club. We are a tinpot, clueless outfit aiming just to emulate Burnley of a few years ago. That is the benchmark, that is the extent of this clubs ambition, yet they will have you believe "NSNO" still matters.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Dyche may never return from Glastonbury if this keeps up

 

[Sharpattack]

I agree and thats the horrible position we now find ourselves in, perennial relegation fodder who constantly need ‘a saviour’ paying over the odds to a manager to keep us in the league with a short sighted player recruitment policy and…… recycle
The only improvement this season was a £0 spend in January and a huge clear out this summer ok the under 12’s may be playing on opening day next season but the ffp will be sorted

Great. When does the clear out start?

 

[davids]

Every single time a manager gets appointed or a new season starts people have 'hope'. Let's not pretend it lasts very long. If we're bottom 3 in Jan, he's gone. If we're not, he's completely safe - after all, the only ambition this club currently has is to be a Prem team and Dyche will more than likely achieve this.

If Dyche fails, he goes. EFC still exists, still goes on, and we recruit another manager and go again. Just like the one before Dyche. And before him. And before him. And before him...

I can't really see from your post what you are expecting ambition wise, Champions League qualification? We are all aware of Dyche's limitations as a manager but as we stand financially slow and steady is what's required. That doesn't equate to a Dyche love in.

 

[maccavennie]

Dyche may never return from Glastonbury if this keeps up

Last tent standing

 

[davids]

Is this really what we're paying him?! That can't be true. What has he ever done to deserve £5m a year.

Kept us in the Prem would be the fairly obvious answer. Is that worth 12.5 million if that is what he's getting for a 2.5 year contract? A bargain!
The reality of modern football.

 

[Furey1878]

Bloody hell

 

[monkeyandy]

Great. When does the clear out start?

Mina, Coady, Davies, Townsend, Begovic, Kean, Vinagre, Gibson all gone so far so its a start

 

[Titus Shambles]

I can't really see from your post what you are expecting ambition wise, Champions League qualification? We are all aware of Dyche's limitations as a manager but as we stand financially slow and steady is what's required. That doesn't equate to a Dyche love in.

Not once have I mentioned UCL qualification or anything even close to it, but that's so often the problem here: question the clubs ambitions or the manager and it's met with that same daft statement, like there's absolutely nothing in between.

If you don't think some people on here firmly are in a Dyche love-in then I don't know what to tell ya. They can have at it if they want, but I saw the exact same thing with Lampard last year (as much as people would now like to pretend they didn't). I'd rather wait til winter and see where we are before declaring Dyche as the best thing since Moyes, a miracle worker etc and all the other over-reactive hyperbole I've read about a manager who is, as you say, limited.

 

[MikeH72]

Mina, Coady, Davies, Townsend, Begovic, Kean, Vinagre, Gibson all gone so far so its a start

Out of contract players don’t really count, especially when one of them was head and shoulders our best defender.