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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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No there wasnt. You're like a murdoch type hack sitting at a desk with bad breath and coffee stained teeth just making up your own sh!t.

While we are here. Its by no means dyche fault. But you were the one creaming your kecks for him because you said the squad here is his level. He was the one to go with what we have. Well we are very what you wanted at least. 1 goal from open play in 5 games.
You've at least got your Burnley that you were craving for.

Makes me want to vomit that fella honestly. The worst of us.
 
When we appointed Lampard, I felt if we went down we should sack him.

I feel very differently with Dyche, he has a bigger challenge given points/no Richarlison/Gordon as well as the apathy across the club. He also has credentials of having achieved promotion twice at the first time of asking.

I get there's a lot of anxiety, worry and frustration - and that can make all of us make some very erratic, kneejerk and frankly daft comments.

No Everton manager should ever get a free pass but;

Arsenal (H) 1-0 3pts
Liverpool (A) 0-2 0pts
Leeds (H) 1-0 3pts
Aston Villa (H) 0-2 0pts.
Arsenal (A) 4-0 0pts.

6 points is as good as I'd have hoped for there. I'd have snapped hands off for 2 home wins vs Leeds and Aston Villa, expecting to lose 2x vs Arsenal and Liverpool.

Liverpool and Arsenal away our as hard a game for any Everton manager as you're going to get.

If he can carry on the form he's had - get us 2 wins in every 5 until the end of the season - we stay up.

It's a major improvement of sorts even if it doesn't look good on paper.

Lampard had got 5 points from the last 12 games so its moving in the right direction.

Them 3 home defeats to Leicester, Wolves and Southampton are killers.
 
Not having the 'Dyche ball' nonsense shouts either. Without any surprise to those paying attention- we are the leagues lowest goalscorers - just like we were bottom for chances created last season and this. I'm convinced if we had brought in an Ings/Wood type and Dyche earlier, we'd be comfortable. It's not hindsight stuff either. [Post 1] [Post 2]

Dyche has definitely improved us going forward - we're playing better, it's just... SHOCK, we're absolutely useless in the final third. Dyche isn't going to start making Doucoure make a composed finish when 1 on 1.

Arsenal (H)
Goal Attempts: 12 (vs Arsenal's 15)
Shots On Goal: 4
Shots Off Goal: 5
Blocked Shots: 3

Liverpool (A)
Goal Attempts: 6 (vs Liverpool's 15)
Shots On Goal: 1
Shots Off Goal: 4
Blocked Shots: 1

Leeds (H)
Goal Attempts: 15 (vs Leeds 8)
Shots On Goal: 6
Shots Off Goal: 7
Block Shots: 2

Aston Villa (H)
Goal Attempts: 15 (vs Aston Villa's 9)
Shots On Goal: 5
Shots Off Goal: 7
Blocked Shots: 3

Arsenal (A)
Goal Attempts: 8 (vs Arsenal's 15)
Shots On Goal: 5
Shots Off Goal: 5
Blocked Shots: 5
And yet the club would upload training drills where the likes of Andre Gomes and Michael Keane would be winning shooting challenges by nailing shot after shot into the top corner from the edge of the box. It's really, really strange how they (the squad) cannot do the basics when in a competitive environment.

I mean, Doucoure having the ability to charge forward (good) but then looking like he's never seen a football in his life when he enters the box (very bad), or simply having players like Gray, Onana, Iwobi, Davies all trashing the ball miles over the crossbar when presented with relatively simple efforts.

It's just absolutely nowhere near good enough. But hey, they'll all have big smiles on their faces doing piggy-in-the-middle drills in training for the rest of the week.
 
Nope

People have concerns about him but I've not seen one person say he should go. I dont want another manager to go at all because the board should not be allowed to hide behind managers.

The squad ain't good enough. The board and owner are incompetent and arrogant. Whether or not Dyche is good enough is irrelevant right now. No manager can succeed under these circumstances, not lampard , not Dyche, not Pep Guardiola
I'll be honest Tim I think if Dyche is in before the world cup like he should have been we stay up comfortably enough imo. That run of games overxmas that we lost has done for us.

I still think he can keep us up mind but he's gonna need a big scalp or 2 to do it.
 

When we appointed Lampard, I felt if we went down we should sack him.

I feel very differently with Dyche, he has a bigger challenge given points/no Richarlison/Gordon as well as the apathy across the club. He also has credentials of having achieved promotion twice at the first time of asking.

I get there's a lot of anxiety, worry and frustration - and that can make all of us make some very erratic, kneejerk and frankly daft comments.

No Everton manager should ever get a free pass but;

Arsenal (H) 1-0 3pts
Liverpool (A) 0-2 0pts
Leeds (H) 1-0 3pts
Aston Villa (H) 0-2 0pts.
Arsenal (A) 4-0 0pts.

6 points is as good as I'd have hoped for there. I'd have snapped hands off for 2 home wins vs Leeds and Aston Villa, expecting to lose 2x vs Arsenal and Liverpool.

Liverpool and Arsenal away our as hard a game for any Everton manager as you're going to get.

If he can carry on the form he's had - get us 2 wins in every 5 until the end of the season - we stay up.

The next two games are the big test really. That'll give a clear indication of where this is all heading. That includes the next two games for our relegation rivals as well.

If we find ourselves 4 points behind after Brentford with Spurs, Chelsea and United to come next then that is going to look pretty dire.
 
there is a sect of fans who worshipped Lampard and made excuse after excuse for him putting uneccesary pressure on Dyche very early doors.

They just can't get over the cockney ones sacking so will try create instability about the place. 🐍
Kopite levels of self awareness here. Replace Lampard with Benitez and it is you.

And no one ever worshipped Lampard. Plenty of people were able to see the bigger picture though and that changing manager without improving the squad would leave us no better off. If we get beaten by forest then I honestly can’t see us bettering Lampards record this season.
 
Kopite levels of self awareness here. Replace Lampard with Benitez and it is you.

And no one ever worshipped Lampard. Plenty of people were able to see the bigger picture though and that changing manager without improving the squad would leave us no better off. If we get beaten by forest then I honestly can’t see us bettering Lampards record this season.

Correct sir.
 
When we appointed Lampard, I felt if we went down we should sack him.

I feel very differently with Dyche, he has a bigger challenge given points/no Richarlison/Gordon as well as the apathy across the club. He also has credentials of having achieved promotion twice at the first time of asking.

I get there's a lot of anxiety, worry and frustration - and that can make all of us make some very erratic, kneejerk and frankly daft comments.

No Everton manager should ever get a free pass but;

Arsenal (H) 1-0 3pts
Liverpool (A) 0-2 0pts
Leeds (H) 1-0 3pts
Aston Villa (H) 0-2 0pts.
Arsenal (A) 4-0 0pts.

6 points is as good as I'd have hoped for there. I'd have snapped hands off for 2 home wins vs Leeds and Aston Villa, expecting to lose 2x vs Arsenal and Liverpool.

Liverpool and Arsenal away our as hard a game for any Everton manager as you're going to get.

If he can carry on the form he's had - get us 2 wins in every 5 until the end of the season - we stay up.

It’s the lack of goals, that‘s really frightening.

Two in five games, is shocking.

If we can’t get DCL up and running again, we’re finished.

No matter what Dave says.
 
I'll be honest Tim I think if Dyche is in before the world cup like he should have been we stay up comfortably enough imo. That run of games overxmas that we lost has done for us.

I still think he can keep us up mind but he's gonna need a big scalp or 2 to do it.
Every manager we've appointed has had a couple of good results then quickly things have reverted to type.

Benitez started very well, but it lasted like 4 games. Lampard's first two games at GP were 3 goal victories (brentford and Leeds).

I don't think who the manager is makes any difference at this club right now. The players and culture of the club are just not good enough for anyone to be a success.
 

Every manager we've appointed has had a couple of good results then quickly things have reverted to type.

Benitez started very well, but it lasted like 4 games. Lampard's first two games at GP were 3 goal victories (brentford and Leeds).

I don't think who the manager is makes any difference at this club right now. The players and culture of the club are just not good enough for anyone to be a success.
While the players are indeed crap and while the culture does indeed stink, we're safe with one semi-competent striker.

I feel we constantly go down the rabbit hole of saying how f'ed we are when literally 7 goals puts up mid-table and we're sitting here arguing about how to push into Europe etc.

With all this said, I like Dyche and I also don't mind his style. Think people overstate how basic it is. No different than what somebody like Simeone does, for instance. The up-and-at-em-ness suits the Goodison crowd and bombarding the opponents penalty area is far more entertaining than tippy-tappy Martinez ball. In my humble opinion and all that..
 
I think it’s dawned on him over the last two games just how poor we are….especially upfront.

Sorry Sean you have had your pants pulled down by this board and no you know how every Evertonian feels.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he resigned saying ‘even I can’t polish this turd’
In the next few weeks.
 
Every manager we've appointed has had a couple of good results then quickly things have reverted to type.

Benitez started very well, but it lasted like 4 games. Lampard's first two games at GP were 3 goal victories (brentford and Leeds).

I don't think who the manager is makes any difference at this club right now. The players and culture of the club are just not good enough for anyone to be a success.

True. I will take doucoure as an example(could be any of them) he will have one game where he looks interested. And then 5 games where if he's not playing with fire in his belly his lack of footballing technique certainly wont get him through a game.
The squad is littered with this.
We bought poor technical players who are coupled with at times a poor approach.
 
I am not blaming him because he took over a sinking ship, but why does he keep playing Maupay, we all know he will never score goals, I also know we don't have much in reserve but please at least try something different. Maybe like in the old days when we were only getting beaten by the odd goal to send a centre half (Mick Lyons) for example up top towards the end and get Pickford to go long and create pressure up front for a change. At least please try something different.
 
I am not blaming him because he took over a sinking ship, but why does he keep playing Maupay, we all know he will never score goals, I also know we don't have much in reserve but please at least try something different. Maybe like in the old days when we were only getting beaten by the odd goal to send a centre half (Mick Lyons) for example up top towards the end and get Pickford to go long and create pressure up front for a change. At least please try something different.

This view baffles me.

Dyche has been manager for 5 games.

5.

From those 5, 3 have been Arsenal or Liverpool.

One of those 5, he started Calvert-Lewin. Another, he started Simms at Anfield. Always a tough ask, but not as tough as Arsenal away and he did sod all.

He brought Gray on for Maupay vs Arsenal and we seemed to be even worse.

"WHY DOES HE KEEP PLAYING MAUPAY" when the alternatives are Gray and Simms, or Michael Keane upfront tells you all you need to know.

We have McNeill who can at least cross a ball and Gray has never scored a headed goal. Maupay is naff in the air but he's at least scored a few.

Dyche's hands are badly tied, and moaning because he's started Maupay upfront rather than an lad 4 years younger who hasn't got a top flight/Prem goal to his name or Gray just baffles me.

Arsenal - Calvert-Lewin
Liverpool - Simms
Leeds - Maupay
Aston Villa - Maupay
Arsenal - Maupay
 

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