kiss the crest
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Can you imagine Dyche managing Peter Reid and Andy Gray, they were always slightly injured but still played lol
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Just off the top of my head, I’m sure there’s more.
Villa at the end of the game 2 or 3 really good situations last ditch defending by them.
Leeds Onana header cleared off the line and Patterson had a great chance at the end
Maupay in the derby
Gray clean through at Brentford when we’re 1-0 up with 15 mins to go
Onana late on v utd to get us a point
DCL 5 yards out v Fulham puts it wide
Iwobi 8 yards out v Leicester 5 mins in, puts it wide DCL clean through to make it 1-1 2nd half misses
The 2 early chances at spurs for gray and Onana
Good chances v wolves at 1-1 2nd half, Gordon misses a sitter
Apart from the 2 very good chances v Fulham at 1-1 when maupay should score. And his first game v arsenal when we scored have scored more
I can’t think of many times we got into great goal scoring situations. It’s all huff and puff. Trying to get a cross in , or hoping to get something from a corner
Totally agree mate
I can take neanderthal football that Dyche and Allardyce teams produce for half a season of so as a short term expedient to get us out of a hole but to base the whole future of the team when rebuilding, no that's far too much
The argument that these types of manages only play that way because of resources is ludicrous and completely torpedoed when you see the Kompany transformation of Burnley on a shoestring.
There is no substitute for good coaching.
Exactly, but some just never liked him and were never prepared to give him a chance
Pity the players didn’t realise that?
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £35m
I have always refused to believe managers do anything that deliberately reduce the chances of winning, even if they are arrogant. So when we see what seems indefensible, it really is just a mistake, a decision made on the info and players available that turns out to be wrong.
But Dyche has properly backed himself into a corner with a few decisions. If he starts Patterson on Monday and he even plays just ok with no mistakes, the last few games of Holgate and Godfrey look even worse and everyone rightly asks why Godfrey was given multiple chances to prove he was crap. And he succeeded in 45 minutes. Try it once, fine we have few options, but the minute it looks like a shocker, change it, mid-match. Then don’t do it again the following week ffs.
Keane did well when he first came in, but when he reverted to type, get Mina or Coady in. Long time ago now, but Coady started the season really really well for me despite his heritage. Most of the media were befuddled as to why Wolves had pushed him out when he was playing well and they were getting beat constantly. Coady had a couple of games where he made a mistake and he hasn’t been seen since. He’s was still in the England squad. Southgate has Keane’s number blocked. Tarks can play every week for me. Not amazing, and not the leader I was sold, but he’s an honest player, trying his best every minute. The other slot should have been changed when we started leaking mercilessly.
There’s a many more. Garner has only had cameos and decent game from the start. The mere fact that he wasn’t gash, but then gets dropped for Onana, who has don’t nothing good at all for months is weird. He won’t play him because of experience, and yet the world and Dyche can’t stop saying how Onana is still learning his game blah blah. What’s the difference? Garner looked more mobile and showed signs that he might at least try to create something. His history makes him more suited to the PL than Onana. Could argue he should have come in instead of Gana who has tried but has been terrible.
Again, I do think managers just make mistakes rather than sabotage teams, initial decisions at least. And Dyche is working with scraps so the initial decisions are just trying to find a blend that works. But when they get locked into repeating the same mistakes just because if the alternative succeeds the blame focusses entirely on them for not trying the alternative 3 games prior, if it was October they’d get the boot every time.
But Dyche has properly backed himself into a corner with a few decisions. If he starts Patterson on Monday and he even plays just ok with no mistakes, the last few games of Holgate and Godfrey look even worse and everyone rightly asks why Godfrey was given multiple chances to prove he was crap. And he succeeded in 45 minutes. Try it once, fine we have few options, but the minute it looks like a shocker, change it, mid-match. Then don’t do it again the following week ffs.
Keane did well when he first came in, but when he reverted to type, get Mina or Coady in. Long time ago now, but Coady started the season really really well for me despite his heritage. Most of the media were befuddled as to why Wolves had pushed him out when he was playing well and they were getting beat constantly. Coady had a couple of games where he made a mistake and he hasn’t been seen since. He’s was still in the England squad. Southgate has Keane’s number blocked. Tarks can play every week for me. Not amazing, and not the leader I was sold, but he’s an honest player, trying his best every minute. The other slot should have been changed when we started leaking mercilessly.
There’s a many more. Garner has only had cameos and decent game from the start. The mere fact that he wasn’t gash, but then gets dropped for Onana, who has don’t nothing good at all for months is weird. He won’t play him because of experience, and yet the world and Dyche can’t stop saying how Onana is still learning his game blah blah. What’s the difference? Garner looked more mobile and showed signs that he might at least try to create something. His history makes him more suited to the PL than Onana. Could argue he should have come in instead of Gana who has tried but has been terrible.
Again, I do think managers just make mistakes rather than sabotage teams, initial decisions at least. And Dyche is working with scraps so the initial decisions are just trying to find a blend that works. But when they get locked into repeating the same mistakes just because if the alternative succeeds the blame focusses entirely on them for not trying the alternative 3 games prior, if it was October they’d get the boot every time.
I agree with the original point - he's been given a dud squad, and it's been difficult. I suspect that's why he was quite abrupt in his post match media appearance.
Nevertheless, it doesn't negate him from any form of criticism and whatnot. As our current manager, he needs to be getting the best from what he's got.
Playing Godfrey at RB and keeping him there after being fleeced repeatedly and refusing to bring on Gray, is probably not getting the best from what he's got.
One point doesn't lessen the other. There's those amongst us who never wanted him - that's their prerogative. There's those amongst us who've backed him...
... but feel recent decisions and trends are of a concern.
If the worst happens it’s not on him imo
Beg to differ Groucho but it's not ALL on him
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
Any chance that I gave him diminished after the game on Thursday night, everyone could see the problem bar him, he continues playing Maupay, he then came out and said Keane played well, he has lost a lot of respect from a lot of Evertonians, does he think we're thick?
He will pick the same clowns on Monday to really rub it in
Also he was laughing at his post match interview the other day, he has no connection to the fans whatsoever
I respectfully disagree but that’s life
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
Another point about this clown when he took over we were 3rd from bottom we are now 2nd from bottom.
Wolves new manager bottom on boxing day
Wolves new manager bottom on boxing day
bitter-no-better
Player Valuation: £25m
Lampard last 10 (5 points)
West ham
Man city
Soton
Wolves
Brighton
Bournemouth
Leicester
Palace
Newcastle
Fulham
Dyche last 10 (7 points)
Arsenal
Chelsea
Spurs
Villa
Newcastle
Man United
Palace
Fulham
Brentford
Forest
Maybe if dyche was in charge sooner we would not be giving him such a hard time.
West ham
Man city
Soton
Wolves
Brighton
Bournemouth
Leicester
Palace
Newcastle
Fulham
Dyche last 10 (7 points)
Arsenal
Chelsea
Spurs
Villa
Newcastle
Man United
Palace
Fulham
Brentford
Forest
Maybe if dyche was in charge sooner we would not be giving him such a hard time.
How many more managers before we admit this crop of players is absolutely gnash. You can change the board/owner/manager, and it will not any difference, it’s the quality of the players and has been for quite some time now, there skill sets are absolutely atrocious they can’t even pass it to one another, they just hoof it up the pitch and hope, it’s effing sad it really is, no wonder the supporters started leaving early there’s only so much of this rubbish one can take as a supporter, pity the players didn’t feel the same.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
Wolves have good players.
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