2022/23 Sean Dyche

[Wat Tyler]

Waaaaay out of his depth

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

If the worst happens it’s not on him imo

Great gig that then , get paid a massive amount of money to do a job and if you fail all the blame is on your predecessor.
He is failing to even make a decent fight of it.
The football is turgid , and his player selection is risible.
Coady is better than Keane, Godfrey is a very poor rb, Garner who has looked useful and can score hardly gets a sniff, Simms is ignored in favour of Maupay , or Gray .
His inability to react in and make in game adjustments is very disappointing, (for instance when Emery made adjustments at the start of the second half which gave them the initiative he did nothing),
But all this is someone else’s fault?
He is failing with this squad and regardless what you think of the abilities of the players this will be the same squad he has to work with in the future.
He has shown me nothing to suggest that he is the man to direct our immediate future, nothing at all.

 

[Dougie]

There is some stat that backs up the fact that we win more games with Mina in the team than without.

Yeah I have seen that, it’s get a big difference too I think. Yes he is made of glass but we all know from our own eyes and the stats he is our best defender.

 

[Caolam]

Surely even our incompetent club management put an escape clause into Dyche’s contract, even they couldn’t tie us to his one dimensional style of football following relegation. Having said that would anyone be surprised if we found that we had to pay him a king’s ransom to get shot, if that is the case it would just be a further nail driven into the coffin by Blue Bill.
We aren’t relegated yet, we still have a chance despite very thing that is sensible pointing to our demise, if we do go down then ousting Sean Dyche shouldn’t be the first priority, we need to rid ourselves of the ownership, the board and anyone who has been responsible for any of the decisions that has made us the laughingstock we currently are. Allowing the current club management to select a new manager is insane, we need a reboot. These are the people who sold a current Brazilian international and bought Maupay and expected things to improve. They gambled with the future of an institution and they lost, time to pay up and get out of the people’s club.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

From Liverpool Echo : "Speaking after the game, Dyche said he had spent little time in the dressing room in the immediate aftermath of the match. Instead, he said, having heard several of his players addressing their team-mates from his office at the ground, he believed it appropriate to let them do the talking."

Admitting that he stayed in his office and could hear the players so he "let them do the talking" is nothing short of disgraceful. There's no doubt that if he is in one room and can hear the players next door then they weren't "talking" to each other. There must have been a right old barney going on, presumably arguing with each other or worse. What sort of leadership is that?! He's put at risk any team unity and individual player's confidence. The more probable reason for him hiding in his office wetting his knickers is because he couldn't face the anger of the players and being told his tactics were a shambles. He's a fraud and a coward - his team selection and style of play show it every week.

Nah, nonsense that.

He was asked why he spent a long time in the dressing room, he said he didn't actually, he left the players have their say and then he had his say.

Anyone who has ever been in any dressing room in a competitive sport like football will know the immediate noise after a result will always be the players - managers usually wade in after. Dyche said he let the players have their say between eachother then he waded in an said his piece.

Normal.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Remarkable how 90% of the fume on here is going towards the manager. I make no apologies for copying and pasting this again.

Appointed here;

With Arsenal x2, Liverpool Away within the first 5 games.

Without a striker.

Go through the team and count the players career goals.

There isn't goals in this team.

Go through the team and count the players career assists/chance creation.

There isn't assists in this team.

Why would players who have never scored goals or created them on a regular basis suddenly start?

It's why I said on here we'd go down in the summer. I said it in January.

This is why we go down - all before him, so I can't blame him now.

Guess what? Better football teams are beating us.

That's the reality.

The reality is, this football team is relegation fodder. [July]

 

[Nymzee]

Remarkable how 90% of the fume on here is going towards the manager.

Not sure I agree here Danny; every single player thread bar a couple is full of them getting slaughtered. It's a terrible squad, devoid of any forwards thank to Thelwell/Bill/Moshiri and we were struggling from Day 1 but he's proven he can pick up the odd point here and there so far. To see him stand by players the entire league has known to be rubbish for 5+ years is just negligent and he should be rightly chastised for it.

You've even gone after him yourself over his Doucoure & Gana decisions. He can't be blameless when he has enough tools to at least be competing with the likes of a holiday-mode Fulham and Palace.

 

[Caolam]

Great gig that then , get paid a massive amount of money to do a job and if you fail all the blame is on your predecessor.
He is failing to even make a decent fight of it.
The football is turgid , and his player selection is risible.
Coady is better than Keane, Godfrey is a very poor rb, Garner who has looked useful and can score hardly gets a sniff, Simms is ignored in favour of Maupay , or Gray .
His inability to react in and make in game adjustments is very disappointing, (for instance when Emery made adjustments at the start of the second half which gave them the initiative he did nothing),
But all this is someone else’s fault?
He is failing with this squad and regardless what you think of the abilities of the players this will be the same squad he has to work with in the future.
He has shown me nothing to suggest that he is the man to direct our immediate future, nothing at all.

He has a track record of failure, no one wanted him, we gave him an opportunity to he couldn’t refuse, we weakened a squad that was already relegation fodder. This is self inflicted harm. All our poor managers, all our poor dealings in the transfer market are symptomatic of how the club is run, unless we address the sickness that pervades the club we can only expect further symptoms.

 

[PhilM]

Not sure I agree here Danny; every single player thread bar a couple is full of them getting slaughtered. It's a terrible squad, devoid of any forwards thank to Thelwell/Bill/Moshiri and we were struggling from Day 1 but he's proven he can pick up the odd point here and there so far. To see him stand by players the entire league has known to be rubbish for 5+ years is just negligent and he should be rightly chastised for it.

You've even gone after him yourself over his Doucoure & Gana decisions. He can't be blameless when he has enough tools to at least be competing with the likes of a holiday-mode Fulham and Palace.

I think this is the bit - it's a balance. The real cause of our situation is much deeper and further back than Dyche, but we can judge him on what he does now.

For me, the tactic of limiting our full backs from ever getting up the pitch and supporting our wider players (overlap, pressing etc.) is restricting the team.

Yes, he may want to be solid at the back and support what is a lacklustre back line, but it means that we're devoid of opportunities to score goals.

McNeil and Iwobi are often isolated, we're relying on Doucouré to push up and Dom becomes isolated because we lack width - it's all one dimensional.

Right now, we're not winning games because we're not scoring goals; we ain't sneaking wins, so we have to try and get those important goals.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Not sure I agree here Danny; every single player thread bar a couple is full of them getting slaughtered. It's a terrible squad, devoid of any forwards thank to Thelwell/Bill/Moshiri and we were struggling from Day 1 but he's proven he can pick up the odd point here and there so far. To see him stand by players the entire league has known to be rubbish for 5+ years is just negligent and he should be rightly chastised for it.

You've even gone after him yourself over his Doucoure & Gana decisions. He can't be blameless when he has enough tools to at least be competing with the likes of a holiday-mode Fulham and Palace.

You don't have to agree mate - the post count and view stats show the majority of focus the past 24 hours is towards Sean Dyche. Significantly more so than the board thread.

He can't be blameless but perspective here (point re Doucoure & Gana).

We're going down because we deserve to go down.

We're bottom 3, without question.

The long term form doesn't lie, I mean this is 2022 calendar year;

 

[Ferguson1878]

Great gig that then , get paid a massive amount of money to do a job and if you fail all the blame is on your predecessor.
He is failing to even make a decent fight of it.
The football is turgid , and his player selection is risible.
Coady is better than Keane, Godfrey is a very poor rb, Garner who has looked useful and can score hardly gets a sniff, Simms is ignored in favour of Maupay , or Gray .
His inability to react in and make in game adjustments is very disappointing, (for instance when Emery made adjustments at the start of the second half which gave them the initiative he did nothing),
But all this is someone else’s fault?
He is failing with this squad and regardless what you think of the abilities of the players this will be the same squad he has to work with in the future.
He has shown me nothing to suggest that he is the man to direct our immediate future, nothing at all.

says in the king article that there’s no break in his contract if the worst happens so no fresh start next season either

 

[JohnRoss23]

Remarkable how 90% of the fume on here is going towards the manager. I make no apologies for copying and pasting this again.

Appointed here;

With Arsenal x2, Liverpool Away within the first 5 games.

Without a striker.

Go through the team and count the players career goals.

There isn't goals in this team.

Go through the team and count the players career assists/chance creation.

There isn't assists in this team.

Why would players who have never scored goals or created them on a regular basis suddenly start?

It's why I said on here we'd go down in the summer. I said it in January.

This is why we go down - all before him, so I can't blame him now.

Guess what? Better football teams are beating us.

That's the reality.

The reality is, this football team is relegation fodder. [July]

Well said.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Ok. Well he only has 's to pick from IMO. But yes OK lets move onto the next manager. How many is that we've tried over how many years?

If he can’t select a moderately successful team out of the current squad , including giving some of our promising youngsters a chance, then he clearly isn’t the man for us, because he will be working with the same group of players next season.
You are excusing failure, and suggesting we reinforce it going forward.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Remarkable how 90% of the fume on here is going towards the manager. I make no apologies for copying and pasting this again.

Appointed here;

With Arsenal x2, Liverpool Away within the first 5 games.

Without a striker.

Go through the team and count the players career goals.

There isn't goals in this team.

Go through the team and count the players career assists/chance creation.

There isn't assists in this team.

Why would players who have never scored goals or created them on a regular basis suddenly start?

It's why I said on here we'd go down in the summer. I said it in January.

This is why we go down - all before him, so I can't blame him now.

Guess what? Better football teams are beating us.

That's the reality.

The reality is, this football team is relegation fodder. [July]

Dyche and previous managers are one of the last reasons why we are going down. But I also think Dyche is totally the wrong man going forward, and his recent decisions have been abysmal.

These are two separate issues really. No its not his fault we are going down. But no he's not doing a good job either and no he's not the best person to manage us in the Championship

If the last 2 home performances had been under lampard or Benitez then people would be blaming the manager. They've been abject.

 

[Lob]

1 win in 10 and that was 7 games ago. 5 games remaining and even the awesome fans cannot get anything out of them. I will be surprised if we get another win. At best we might get a couple of draws which wont be enough. It is obviously not all on Dyche but he was brought in fully aware of the terrible circumstances the club is in especially with the leadership and player quality and attitude and had one job which was to keep us up and he has failed. We actually look as bad now as we were when Lampard was in charge. Even the capitulations are back.

Humiliation and catastrophe awaits us thanks to years of atrocious leadership and mismanagement from the people in charge and the only thing left to do now is a massive clear out of them all and that includes Dyche. A full reset is the only way forward for the club now. We have to start again and build our way back up to being relevant and competitive again with professional people at the top making the decisions and setting the direction. If it takes a few years then so be it. I have made my peace with it.