2023/24 Sean Dyche

[ForeverEverton]

I tend to think Keane will be the hill Dyche dies on, the same way Lampard died on the 5-2-3 hill, why are these highly paid managers so desperate to cause themselves aggro with things that everyone can see clearly doesn`t work.

If Dyche wants to continue with Keane I`d happily wave him off now, we all know what that leads to...

 

[riddick]

Yeah to burnley. Who have lost 9 out of 10 at home. We had suspensions and injuries for burnley. That game was accepted to tinker for that reason. The downside is it got his bloody boy back into his thoughts.
Cba tonight with him bringing keane back. Its the most frustrating thing about dyche bar none. You always get that feeling he's itching to play him.

He sees Keane have one match where he plays and it isn't a TOTAL disaster and you can see Dyche thinking to himself "SEE! THIS is what I've been telling ALL of you!"

 

[Titus Shambles]

To be fair you must think it’s your bridge to sell if for one second you believe (or you think I believe) Dyche reads his own thread in the GoT forum.

lol

The only GOT that dinosaur knows is GRAVEL ON TOAST!... Breakfast of champions*!

(*or teams that finish around 15th/16th ish most years)

 

[skumar55]

He was obviously waiting for you to finish taking a photo on your Nokia 3210.....

He was obviously waiting for you to finish taking a photo on your Nokia 3210.....

 

[kenada_blue]

Gonna be ups and downs. We have more ups than downs we'll be fine.

Horrible game today but if we turn the form around again, that's gonna mean more in the long run

 

[Titus Shambles]

I tend to think Keane will be the hill Dyche dies on, the same way Lampard died on the 5-2-3 hill, why are these highly paid managers so desperate to cause themselves aggro with things that everyone can see clearly doesn`t work.

If Dyche wants to continue with Keane I`d happily wave him off now, we all know what that leads to...

I think you've answered your own question there. What's the worst case that can happen, you get a 7 figure pay off and go on to the next gig.

Not sure if Dyche can see it though. On the one hand, he played this walking relegation machine for about 12 games last season as his weekly mistakes took us to the brink before Mina came back in. On the other, JB has been first choice defender alongside Tarks. We'll know a lot more in the next couple of games: either we go back to the preferred back 4 or it's a 5 to shoehorn his son in, no matter what.

 

[Gilbert..]

Gonna be ups and downs. We have more ups than downs we'll be fine.

Horrible game today but if we turn the form around again, that's gonna mean more in the long run

True.
But for the love of God. Stop picking Keane. An absolute tugboat at the back.

 

[Lobworm]

I tend to think Keane will be the hill Dyche dies on, the same way Lampard died on the 5-2-3 hill, why are these highly paid managers so desperate to cause themselves aggro with things that everyone can see clearly doesn`t work.

If Dyche wants to continue with Keane I`d happily wave him off now, we all know what that leads to...

You make out that Keane gets picked every week when he's hardly started because the other cb pairing is better. If Doucoure was fit today he'd have started and we'd have played 4 at the back and Keane would have been on the bench. Dyche tried something slightly different and for a variety of reasons it didn't work and we got stuffed.

Keane won't regularly start for Everton at cb again, unless there are players sold or injured. That's it really. There maybe several hills that 'Dyche dies on' but Michael Keane isn't one.

 

[Joey66]

From Hero to zero in 4 games ... but his team selection today v a team who our strong out wide on both sides gave them the game before a ball had been kicked .... worrying times ....

 

[allen]

I didn’t see the match today so not going to comment on anything other than the reactions I’ve read.

Sounds like Sean ‘Plan A’ Dyche was well and truly in effect.

I guess a manager is either sure of themselves and their tactics, or they aren’t. I think I’d rather the former, even if they sometimes get it wrong.

What Dyche has done, on balance, has worked. I think you’ve got to trust him to learn whatever lessons he needs to from that today.

I’ve seen enough from him to see he does try and adjust his ideas in the pursuit of finding what works, just not within the timeframe of a single match. Which is obviously frustrating.

 

[Chrismac]

Reserves for Palace in the Cup, please. We had our cup chance this season and Onana blew it. I'm not having "fatigue" as an excuse if we're playing one match a week from now on. Dyche was a stubborn clown today. I'd like to take away all the excuses - and potential injury threats - by throwing that cup tie. We can't afford.

Full strength in every cup game for me, our club needs to grow a set of balls and want to win games rather than want not to lose.
Cups are our biggest chance of success and we should be going full tilt at both league and FA cup each season.
Stop thinking we are a relegation squad asap.

 

[matty1878]

Full strength in every cup game for me, our club needs to grow a set of balls and want to win games rather than want not to lose.
Cups are our biggest chance of success and we should be going full tilt at both league and FA cup each season.
Stop thinking we are a relegation squad asap.

and if you get injury’s to key players for the games you need points for?

no mate swerve the cups were not man city

 

[banno]

I didn’t see the match today so not going to comment on anything other than the reactions I’ve read.

Sounds like Sean ‘Plan A’ Dyche was well and truly in effect.

I guess a manager is either sure of themselves and their tactics, or they aren’t. I think I’d rather the former, even if they sometimes get it wrong.

What Dyche has done, on balance, has worked. I think you’ve got to trust him to learn whatever lessons he needs to from that today.

I’ve seen enough from him to see he does try and adjust his ideas in the pursuit of finding what works, just not within the timeframe of a single match. Which is obviously frustrating.

You need to watch the game to realise how bad it was and how slow changes were made. Cried out for a change at half time and it never came.

 

[allen]

You need to watch the game to realise how bad it was and how slow changes were made. Cried out for a change at half time and it never came.

I followed it in real-time, so I know how late he left it.

Like I say, he is too slow to try and change it within a single match. Let’s see what’s learned next time out.

 

[Titus Shambles]

I didn’t see the match today so not going to comment on anything other than the reactions I’ve read.

Sounds like Sean ‘Plan A’ Dyche was well and truly in effect.

I guess a manager is either sure of themselves and their tactics, or they aren’t. I think I’d rather the former, even if they sometimes get it wrong.

What Dyche has done, on balance, has worked. I think you’ve got to trust him to learn whatever lessons he needs to from that today.

I’ve seen enough from him to see he does try and adjust his ideas in the pursuit of finding what works, just not within the timeframe of a single match. Which is obviously frustrating.

That's the thing with Sean "all I have is Plan A" Dyche though, there is no real adjustment of ideas. When there's no Doucoure in the side, he hasn't got a clue what to do. Evidenced in this game, just as it was last season when he had the ban. Virtually every week its 451, same personal, same system, same tactics, same subs, same times. Not exactly the definition of adjustment; although today was the exception with the switch to back 5 to get his son in the team.

He's a reactionary, set-in-his-ways, always-done-it-this-way-so-will-never-change, manager. Over the course of 38 games it'll more often than not get enough points to get the job done, and the bottom line is ultimately all that matters. Today was just another example of Dyche being absolutely schooled from start to finish by a manager/team that plays front-foot, dominating, attacking football and he had no clue how to deal with it, and was second best as per most of his career.

The fans might dwell on today's performance, but Dyche wont give it a second thought because there's 18 more opportunities to pick up points and we should be able to get enough of them doing what we normally do.