2024/25 Sean Dyche

[kenada_blue]

Absolutely

Still think we're getting too hung up the experience line on Keane. He was fine yesterday.

It is and always will be the forward line that we've brought players in that he's dropped the ball on.

McNeil, Dom, and Doucs were ineffective. He's got the players to change it

 

[Blue peter]

They'll go down. Luton mark 2

They may well do (but no doubt they will take points off us in the process) and he may have to learn from a lot of mistakes this year….it will just be interesting to see how he acquits himself. At his young age, having been managing in League 1 in his first managerial role only two years ago, if he stays up that will be some feat, but even if he doesn’t he’s still one to keep an eye on

 

[TheBigIguana]

106 pages the day after our first game. Strong feelings

Basically what it comes down to is if you play absolute garbage you better win games. And you sure as hell better not get battered.

 

[MACCA75]

They'll go down. Luton mark 2

He’s done a phenomenal job regardless of how they do this season mind.

 

[bluestevon]

And actually the mistake Young made yesterday in trying to control the ball with his chest before being sent off is exactly the type of mistake that an inexperienced player could potentially make….Young is 39

Funnily enough really old players past it often meme the same mistakes really young inexperienced players do.

Young of 21 can do that and get to the loose ball, young of 39 can't, its the mind willing body unable to do it anymore - you see it in boxing all the time when fighters go on too long.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Personally using the phrase "Premier League experience" would have me sacking whoever said it immediately

 

[MikeH72]

Still think we're getting too hung up the experience line on Keane. He was fine yesterday.

It is and always will be the forward line that we've brought players in that he's dropped the ball on.

McNeil, Dom, and Doucs were ineffective. He's got the players to change it

No he wasn’t. If by “fine” you mean he didn’t single handedly cost us a goal, yeah. His presence on the pitch results in us conceding multiple goals every single game. This is because of the intangibles that you don’t always see, like his ball watching, not anticipating danger, not following the run of a striker, being dragged too far out of position at the wrong times. Do you ever ask yourself why we always leak like a sieve when he plays despite on the face of it not making individual howlers for every goal?

Being in the right place at the right time is what separates good defenders from poor ones. He is seldom ever in the right place at the right time. He can’t read the game properly, he ball watches, he’s easy to lose as a striker, his starting body shape is never right, he’s always square to the ball which means he’s always on his heels. End result is we concede goals. So he’s not fine.

 

[Blue peter]

Still think we're getting too hung up the experience line on Keane. He was fine yesterday.

It is and always will be the forward line that we've brought players in that he's dropped the ball on.

McNeil, Dom, and Doucs were ineffective. He's got the players to change it

The challenge I always have with playing players who have consistently shown they can’t do it, is the impact it has on those around him, for instance has JT tried to over compensate at times which has effected his performance etc. if we as supporters can see things, his team mates certainly can. Every member of the first 11 needs to have confidence in each other

 

[goldfinchmule]

Been out for three hours,im sick of pressing like on nearly every post,not looked at the last ten pages,christ its so depressing.

 

[kenada_blue]

They may well do (but no doubt they will take points off us in the process) and he may have to learn from a lot of mistakes this year….it will just be interesting to see how he acquits himself. At his young age, having been managing in League 1 in his first managerial role only two years ago, if he stays up that will be some feat, but even if he doesn’t he’s still one to keep an eye on

Of course. But until we sell up and stop being a basket case club, any manager would see it as career suicide.

Dyche is still what we need until the club is sorted in the background IMO.

 

[Blue peter]

Funnily enough really old players past it often meme the same mistakes really young inexperienced players do.

Young of 21 can do that and get to the loose ball, young of 39 can't, its the mind willing body unable to do it anymore - you see it in boxing all the time when fighters go on too long.

Yeah I think for me it was the less the physical reaction/recovery time to his mistake, more the mentality to try and do that with a blind spot in behind which you often equate more with inexperience

 

[larbert toffee]

Still think we're getting too hung up the experience line on Keane. He was fine yesterday.

It is and always will be the forward line that we've brought players in that he's dropped the ball on.

McNeil, Dom, and Doucs were ineffective. He's got the players to change it

He's got the players to change it but have we got the players on our books who can improve on them?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Our fans were booing after going 1 nil down. It's a bit over the top.

I think the booing was down to it being a case of Deja vu again mate.

 

[davek]

Feel free to explain how. Plenty of people seem to agree.

Two posters agreed with your post.

 

[kenada_blue]

No he wasn’t. If by “fine” you mean he didn’t single handedly cost us a goal, yeah. His presence on the pitch results in us conceding multiple goals every single game. This is because of the intangibles that you don’t always see, like his ball watching, not anticipating danger, not following the run of a striker, being dragged too far out of position at the wrong times. Do you ever ask yourself why we always leak like a sieve when he plays despite on the face of it not making individual howlers for every goal?

Being in the right place at the right time is what separates good defenders from poor ones. He is seldom ever in the right place at the right time. He can’t read the game properly, he ball watches, he’s easy to lose as a striker. End result is we concede goals. So he’s not fine.

Oh I'm not defending him being awful and JOB should've started.

But I don't think we win that game with or without Keane due to a forward line that failed to capitalise on naive football from Brighton.

Just think we're hung on one area of the pitch that isn't a concern. Don't forget we were one of the best defences in the league last season.