Football punditry is a moribund wasteland as far as insight goes. I don't think anyone takes any of it seriously, do they?It's more the general media feeling towards us and Dyche. Sutton the latest example of it.
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Football punditry is a moribund wasteland as far as insight goes. I don't think anyone takes any of it seriously, do they?It's more the general media feeling towards us and Dyche. Sutton the latest example of it.
He would just go on about how he and his team go through 'all sorts of data' (not that he would actually divulge what data) that says differently and that sort of stat isn't important in the bigger picture 'picks nose and rubs it against his bald head'Imagine if a journalist brought up that stat in a press conference.
Same here. I thought Dyche had balls, but apparently notI thought Woan had hair? Honestly, I don't pay any of them that much attention.
Maybe he does, I'm like you in that I don't pay enough attention to either to noticeI thought Woan had hair? Honestly, I don't pay any of them that much attention.
It's the fans that will get him sacked, always been the caseGood, neither is essential.
Its a bad manager who wants to be liked by everyone.
I reckon it's the 16 match winless runs he goes on more than the fans.It's the fans that will get him sacked, always been the case
I won’t go there but I think most experienced football fans who holistically understand the position of the club have a lot of respect for what he’s done and position he’s in. Most of the people I would respect opinion of on the game have that stance - interesting the lads on here who do, or understand the pragmatism required.
I think being liked is irrelevant, it’s part of the problem here, as fans we take our fair share of responsibility for the instability at the club - if we are talking about taking responsibility, we’ve built pressure to the point that managers have been sacked that could and prob should have had more time - hence we’ve had 7 over this Moshiri era. The club needs to be stronger in that and have conviction in their decision making not flip and flop on fans will, reboot after reboot and the cost of that, that’s impacted - that a problem at this club. It’s contributed to the hole we are in.
Fans liked “Lampard he fed them crap and most thought “he gets us” he didn’t care we were just being stage managed. Same with Martinez telling us that we were this great historical club, we are but it was irrelevant to the here and now - stage managed. Fans love this and it papers over the cracks of limits in ability.
Our hope is such that we have developed an inferiority complex - to other clubs and we have a worry of how our identity is perceived by others in football by having a Moyes, Allardyce or Dyche - clearly each made a contribution to the wellbeing of the club - but each weren’t tolerated come the end because of what we think our perceived persona should be and our own insecurity around it. If we are talking about taking responsibility and self reflection let’s do ourselves!
Only thing that matters is there is an impact on the wellbeing of the club, obviously the current manager has had a positive one from where he started to now.
I don’t want to like a manger, it’s irrelevant, I want the clubs wellbeing preserved during a time of holistic internal adversity and outside threat, until we can recover the club.
Neither the club or the manager should listen to fans, it’s part of the problem - the tail shouldn’t wag the dog.
Is that before or after winning 5 games in 9 months??
or is it from the this point forward???
See the enemy is on the case, dont be a Carragher colluder!
Absolutely pathetic that isn't it. Every game should be approached as if you can win it no matter who you are playing and no matter how unlikely it is. Anything less is a loser mentality, something that has been plaguing the club for years. No free passes from me for anything.Dyche gets a free pass this weekend from some of our fans because we’re not expected to get anything out of Villa.
See the enemy is on the case, dont be a Carragher colluder!
Well he is telegraphing he will start Young and Keane tomorrow which is a pre-match white flag raise if ever there were one. We are past time where white hankies (spanish style) should be being waved at this pathetic loser.Absolutely pathetic that isn't it. Every game should be approached as if you can win it no matter who you are playing and no matter how unlikely it is. Anything less is a loser mentality, something that has been plaguing the club for years. No free passes from me for anything.
Is correct so the fans turn on him because of that along with his stubborn ego, they will sing from the touchline and let their feelings known then those up above will need to actI reckon it's the 16 match winless runs he goes on more than the fans.
Expected lossDyche gets a free pass this weekend from some of our fans because we’re not expected to get anything out of Villa.