Sean Dyche

[ijjysmith]

The thing with a Dyche type appointment is that it would be a long term thing (should he do alright I should add).

I'm not sure we need that now. We need a quick fix that will keep us alive until we can get a proper manager in.

WE ARE SUCH A MESS

 

[toffee-boy]

Bit silly then to hire Moyes-lite when the real deal is available

Too cheap to get the real Moyes, it's all about paying compo and making it look like we can get what ever manager we want ie koeman from Southampton

 

[LiamG]

Bit silly then to hire Moyes-lite when the real deal is available

Moyes is finished.

 

[davek]

The thing with a Dyche type appointment is that it would be a long term thing (should he do alright I should add).

I'm not sure we need that now. We need a quick fix that will keep us alive until we can get a proper manager in.

WE ARE SUCH A MESS

Imagine these players though with a manager they know is short term?!

They'd get us to bare safety to save their own careers and nothing more than that. We'd be floored as a club.

We need a long term appointment and a season ahead that gets us midtable to save face. Then we go again next season and rebuild from the ashes.

 

[Tubey]

Dyche looks like the bad news story that goes before the only marginally better news story of the real new manager. This is all about expectation management.

I'd expect an appointment that's something in between Dyche/Alardyce and Tuchel/Mancini in terms of acceptability.

That's literally describing Marco Silva.

 

[ijjysmith]

Imagine these players though with a manager they know is short term?!

They'd get us to bare safety to save their own careers and nothing more than that. We'd be floored as a club.

We need a long term appointment and a season ahead that gets us midtable to save face. Then we go again next season and rebuild from the ashes.

True true. I'm probably looking too short term.

 

[Frang]

True true. I'm probably looking too short term.

who tops your list ijj?

 

[davek]

That's literally describing Marco Silva.

'spose so mate, yeah.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Dyche looks like the bad news story that goes before the only marginally better news story of the real new manager. This is all about expectation management.

I'd expect an appointment that's something in between Dyche/Alardyce and Tuchel/Mancini in terms of acceptability.

Tuchel and Mancini are so far apart from each other that I have no idea why you've put them together.

Agreed on the post overall though.

 

[davek]

Tuchel and Mancini are so far apart from each other that I have no idea why you've put them together.

Agreed on the post overall though.

They're on the same plain, status-wise. Obviously Mancini is the senior of the two.

 

[DualityNSNO]

They're on the same plain, status-wise. Obviously Mancini is the senior of the two.

And he's also won actual titles and had teams consistently do so.

Tuchel has won a cup and got fired. I know you like your managers like that from previous experience, but...

 

[Blue toffee]

Quite agree, but having 28 games to fix things gives you more chance than 14 right?

Yes but we probably need 28 games to sort this out, 14 won't be enough.

I think we could have attracted far bigger names at the start of summer but no top manager would touch this squad it’s absolutely poisonous. Slow, over weight, mentally weak, stupid, cowardly, injury prone, injury riven, completely unbalanced. We’ve got no premier league standard striker, and no fit premier league standard defender. It’s a death trap. Only British coaches from far smaller teams will be interested or absolute ego maniacs from abroad who fancy some sort of miraculous turn around in the hoping of getting a bigger European job. Any up and coming prodigy or established trophy winner would not touch the sick man of the premier league.

Sadly this is the harsh and painful reality of a relegation scrap.

 

[ijjysmith]

who tops your list ijj?

Honestly don't know mate.

Ideally i'd want a 'name'. Someone with a track record of winning things. Not someone over achieving with a smaller club.

But where we find ourselves now changes all that sadly. We need to be sorted out before we even think about winning stuff again.

Every single manager we are linked with has as many negatives as positives so we won't be all totally happy with whoever we end up with here.

I couldn't give you a name of anyone i'd be happy with.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Really? We were 7th last year, 5th 4 seasons ago.

It feels like the board may be taking a similar view to you - panicking at our current league position and forgetting that we really shouldn't be this bad.

Most of the past 3 plus seasons means exactly that - Martinez years 2 and 3, and Koeman this season. So yeah, 2 and a 1/3 out of 3 and a 1/3 seasons. Of course last season was decent, hence I didn't say "all of the past 3 plus seasons". I am NOT advocating Sean Dyche as the answer but, right now, we are a complete mess and rinsing out all the old failures to give them a shot isn't a smart answer. If we can actually persuade a half-decent, non-failing manager to leave his current post that will be a step up from the rubbish that is Alan Pardew (as arrogant as Walker if you need me to dish the dirt then I will do but, happily, he's not in the frame).

So, yeah, Fonseca, Tuchel et al would be pretty good - but are they going to want to come? I'm not so sure. Given his current achievements even Kevin Nolan would be an upgrade on Koeman.

 

[davek]

And he's also won actual titles and had teams consistently do so.

Tuchel has won a cup and got fired. I know you like your managers like that from previous experience, but...

I want a manager who's committed to play football and who has PL experience preferably.