Sean Dyche

[LiamG]

Imagine these players though with a manager they know is short term?!

They'd get us to bare safety to save their own careers and nothing more than that. We'd be floored as a club.

We need a long term appointment and a season ahead that gets us midtable to save face. Then we go again next season and rebuild from the ashes.

I would take "bare safety" in a second if you offered it to me now.

Frankly I think it's nonsense the notion that players care whether we came 8th or 17th. Everton are a top 7 club. Everyone knows that and just like when Utd or Chelsea drop down players will just put it down to a bad season.

I'm torn. I quite like Dyche but it's definitely a Moyes like appointment and I won't enjoy his football. I think we should go for Big Sam. He may only come in for one season but if anyone can get us a win at the pit then it's him. Screw winning cups or CL etc. I would take that and survival in a second.

If Moshiri wants to pump loads of his own money in then he can hire someone else. If he isn't going to then Big Sam is fine. Some of his teams have been ok to watch.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Pulis, Howe, Pardew, Big Sam.

All better than Dyche.

I'm not so sure.

None of them (apart from Howe, who looks like he's about to get his team relegated) have ever worked under the sort of budgetary constraints that Dyche is currently working under. And none of them are currently managing a team that is in the top 7 of the Premier League.

Dyche is also much younger than those aforementioned possible candidates, Howe aside.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Imagine these players though with a manager they know is short term?!

They'd get us to bare safety to save their own careers and nothing more than that. We'd be floored as a club.

We need a long term appointment and a season ahead that gets us midtable to save face. Then we go again next season and rebuild from the ashes.

Is there such a thing in the PL anymore?

After Wenger, the 2 longest serving managers in the PL are Dyche and Howe........

 

[larrygobfiend]

We're gonna get the agricultural football we deserve.

 

[Milkman]

Would rather have Allardyce than Dyche. I hate Dyche. Anybody that signed Jon Walters and Phil Bardsley shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Everton.

 

[hktoffee]

Not sure if I want him or not but are we really not wanting him because he isn’t a foreign manager? , he’s plays the way he does because he’s effective with the players ge’s Got.

Agreed. Sad state of affairs really - is there really much difference between Tuchel and Dyche, other than Tuchel got a chance? Don’t really have an answer, but Dyche clearly plays the way he does to be effective, which he is. Burnley in 7th is a great showing. Maybe we need a totally fresh approach with someone who can kick arse because something is wrong.

Koeman got 6th and 7th at Soton for 2 seasons and see where we are.

Burnley is 7th after 10 games. They were 16th last season.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I want a manager who's committed to play football and who has PL experience preferably.

T'was a joke anyway like.

Not sold on Tuchel myself anyway, and I'm of the same opinion as you about the manager. Tuchel is only 50% that, I'm okay to give him the chance to prove himself here, but he's as big a gamble as anything.

Also pls no Dyche.

 

[davek]

I would take "bare safety" in a second if you offered it to me now.

Frankly I think it's nonsense the notion that players care whether we came 8th or 17th. Everton are a top 7 club. Everyone knows that and just like when Utd or Chelsea drop down players will just put it down to a bad season.

I'm torn. I quite like Dyche but it's definitely a Moyes like appointment and I won't enjoy his football. I think we should go for Big Same. He may only come in for one season but if anyone can get us a win at the pit then it's him. Screw winning cups or CL etc. I would take that and survival in a 2nd.

If Moshiri wants to pump loads of his own money in then he can hire someone else. If he isn't going to then Big Sam is fine. Some of his teams have been ok to watch.

I dont think you can underestimate the blow to morale that going for managers of that description will have.

Alardyce is a fire fighter. He manages clubs that have lost their way. Not the signal we need to be sending out if a stadium scheme is trying to find investors who want reassurances about the long term stability of the organisation.

 

[Frang]

Honestly don't know mate.

Ideally i'd want a 'name'. Someone with a track record of winning things. Not someone over achieving with a smaller club.

But where we find ourselves now changes all that sadly. We need to be sorted out before we even think about winning stuff again.

Every single manager we are linked with has as many negatives as positives so we won't be all totally happy with whoever we end up with here.

I couldn't give you a name of anyone i'd be happy with.

I can honestly see us naming someone very 'leftfield', and someone who hasn't been mentioned at all.

Moshiri will pick him.

 

[Stanley Parker]

They finished 16th last year FFS. All very Martinez, this. Worse than Howe who hadn't been mentioned at all this time round but finished 9th with Bournemouth last season.

Would rather take Sam Allardyce and that's saying something. Where's your ambition Everton!?

Howe did indeed take Bournemouth to ninth place last season. But that was a rather flattering position. They were 15 points behind Everton - with goals for 55 and goals against 67!

Howe made little impression at Burnley but has been successful at Bournemouth, with very modest resources. However, defensive frailties in his team may limit further progress.

Last season, we beat Bournemouth 6-3, and they are now one of the two teams below Everton. I don't think Howe is a contender.

 

[davek]

Is there such a thing in the PL anymore?

After Wenger, the 2 longest serving managers in the PL are Dyche and Howe........

By long term I mean anyone who stay around for three seasons!

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Koeman got 6th and 7th at Soton for 2 seasons and see where we are.

Burnley is 7th after 10 games. They were 16th last season.

Apples and oranges mate.

Southampton have a much larger wage budget than Burnley. And they spend much more on transfer fees, too.

 

[LiamG]

I dont think you can underestimate the blow to morale that going for managers of that description will have.

Alardyce is a fire fighter. He manages clubs that have lost their way. Not the signal we need to be sending out if a stadium scheme is trying to find investors who want reassurances about the long term stability of the organisation.

Do you know what other signal we don't want to send out? The signal to say we've been relegated.

Relegation is always a risk for a football club. It will have already been factored in. What won't have been factored in and what could wreck the deal is relegation.

 

[TheFinnFan]

He might be good fit imho

 

[davek]

Do you know what other signal we don't want to send out? The signal to say we've been relegated.

Relegation is always a risk for a football club. It will have already been factored in. What won't have been factored in and what could wreck the deal is relegation.

I think we're five points off top ten with 28 games to go.