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Sheedy on Moyes

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@GrandOldTeam i'm not taking sides here, and as much as i liked Moyes this theme of him 'not liking the youth' is now becoming more a public spectrum. Remember i told you about what Mark Hughes the CB told me?

" Moyes doesn't rate the kids, never has and never will
" This was at least 5 years ago.

He only got an extension on his contract as a favour to his Agent at the time.

Whilst it would suit Hughes to slate Moyes as he never got as much as a chance as some others, this is now coming from much higher up the chain than the Youth lads with a chip on their shoulder.
Thing is mate, there is a million and one of these stories about moyes and his lack of faith in youth, far too many to be no truth in it, we used to get the same head in the sand arguments from moyes hardcore fans, when tactics where discussed, this seems no different
 
Nice one, Sheeds.

"Punt ball to Fellani"...bang on
"At least now we have a manager who wants to win a match". - brilliantly true. We have been on the wrong end of some results this season, but at least every single game we have gone out there to win.

Can't wait for next season when we will see less of Osman and Pienaar and hopefully a McCarthy/Gibson CM partnership, and McGeads tearing apart full backs
 
I think sheedy was bang on about it and personally now is not the time anymore to be tip toeing around our former boss. I personally want to know what happened behind the scenes and sheedy telling us (the obvious) is good for the fans.

I want our staff to hammer him so badly as he heads for the humiliation of a first season sacking that Moyes then starts speaking about the real behind the scenes stuff at Goodison
 
I want our staff to hammer him so badly as he heads for the humiliation of a first season sacking that Moyes then starts speaking about the real behind the scenes stuff at Goodison

Haha can you imagine it all unravelling as he goes into full meltdown and forgets all loyalties and just lays it bare, Kenwright would sh*t his pants and look for the first Malaysian flight out the country I'd imagine.
 

It's just Moyes's style. He never fully trusted youth and his league results are hard to argue against. Barkley makes a mistake at Blackburn and we don't see him again for months. What I could never understand is why was it treated differently when Neville or Osman made a mistake, because we all know we'd see them next week.
 
This is an interesting debate.

Firstly, the question is not whether the academy is good enough. It has to be. High pedigree, A-list material, up there with the best in the country, breeding some top-class talent. Two words, Wayne Rooney. Always had one top-class lid coming through in at least every other age group. Has been a source of income, helped keep the books balanced through sales of Jeffers, Rodwell, Rooney, what have you.

So, the next question is if we were so bad we released someone who went on to be better. Well, no. That has to go down as a big plus in our book and probably one of the big pros of Moyes' youth tactic - which i will argue was just a bit too cautious. This cautiousness made sure we didn't drop the ball on talent, but it might have made some talents drop their balls.

Point in case is Jose Baxter. Obviously a frustrated man. George Green might rap about boats n hoes but he does at least eat his veggies (with less green) with a good outlook on his future, hoping for good times and the like. Baxter got his chance, belated, and didn't really get enough of it. He missed it, and it went downhill from there. Of course his attitude kinda broke him but being so heavily chastised for it, and for not performing in situations where he really couldn't be asked to do so (remember the abject Bolton game where we slumped to a depressing defeat, he got 5 minutes as if he could save something, much less even savour the chance, that day) might just have been a bit too much hard love.
No case to be made by him other than that he's buzzing through the ranks of jarg football league teams. Oh, and hes reached further than us in the FA cup this year.

Another thing i didn't get is why we won't loan out our talents to other PL teams, or top-tier teams elsewhere. Lots of the biggest talents in England have had loan spells. Wilshere, Cleverley, Moses, even Lukaku. Why wouldn't we let Baxter, or Duffy or Mustafi for that matter, have a go at Hull or wherever?
 

Sheedy shouldn't have posted that stuff on twitter but the fact is, he did and I have no reason to doubt him. Moyes always boasted about how he loved Kenwright and Everton because he had total control over all aspects of what went on on the football side of things. So, if the academy was not producing, it was up to Moyes to fix it. He clearly didn't change much, ignored the players it produced and filled the gaps in the squad with slightly older players found by scouts. Oh and Sheedy's ten times the blue Moyes ever was.
 
I'm glad he's come out with it...... He has done more for everton than moyes or bill ever has.... He loves everton and must be pissed off to see how far we have fallen... Out of sheedy and sharp I know who I respect the most.... I just wish someone would tell us the truth about bill so everyone could wake up and run him out of town...
 

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