Rita_Poon
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Can you lighten the load somehow?
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Should the UK motorway speed limit be raised?
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Alanbileysfeathercut
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I recall driving through Wales and a driver with a caravan determined to overtake a tractor, while a half mile of single cars queued.
I voted for 90, but the speed limits aren't actually the issue. It's the absolutely shambolic lane discipline displayed by way too many drivers along with poorly-planned overtaking.
We are required by the highway code to drive in the leftmost lane except when overtaking, BUT you are supposed to complete your overtaking by moving BACK to the leftmost lane.
Most people plonk themselves in the middle lane regardless of whether there's anything in the leftmost lane or not. The ones that trundle along at 55mph therefore effectively narrow the motorway to a single lane for anyone wishing to pass them.
I would completely change the process of attaing a driving licence and make it more like flying - you'd be required to log a set number of hours and demonstrate consistent competency in a variety of situations over a variety of days. I'dalso add a CPD element to that: every five years you'd be required to log another five supervised hours. If you have a crash, you'd have to log MORE supervised hours (varying by severity).
As for road traffic offences: anyone caught trundling in the middle lane when not overtaking: 6 points and £500 fine. Reduce it to 4 points and £200 fine if you elect to log 5 supervised hours on the motorway to correct your poor driving.
I'd also change the rules about speed-limited vehicles. They should NOT be allowed to overtake each other because they immediately cause congestion and bunching. 6 points, £1000 fine to the driver and £10,000 fine to the company employing them.
Also remove the restriction on overtaking using the left lane. If some plank is sitting in the middle lane doing 55 and the person to his right occupies the outermost lane doing 60, there is no sense in preventing me passing them both at 70 on the left provided there is room to do so.
Half the people on UK roads genuinely worry me with what appears to be vastly inattentive tunnel-vision driving.
We are required by the highway code to drive in the leftmost lane except when overtaking, BUT you are supposed to complete your overtaking by moving BACK to the leftmost lane.
Most people plonk themselves in the middle lane regardless of whether there's anything in the leftmost lane or not. The ones that trundle along at 55mph therefore effectively narrow the motorway to a single lane for anyone wishing to pass them.
I would completely change the process of attaing a driving licence and make it more like flying - you'd be required to log a set number of hours and demonstrate consistent competency in a variety of situations over a variety of days. I'dalso add a CPD element to that: every five years you'd be required to log another five supervised hours. If you have a crash, you'd have to log MORE supervised hours (varying by severity).
As for road traffic offences: anyone caught trundling in the middle lane when not overtaking: 6 points and £500 fine. Reduce it to 4 points and £200 fine if you elect to log 5 supervised hours on the motorway to correct your poor driving.
I'd also change the rules about speed-limited vehicles. They should NOT be allowed to overtake each other because they immediately cause congestion and bunching. 6 points, £1000 fine to the driver and £10,000 fine to the company employing them.
Also remove the restriction on overtaking using the left lane. If some plank is sitting in the middle lane doing 55 and the person to his right occupies the outermost lane doing 60, there is no sense in preventing me passing them both at 70 on the left provided there is room to do so.
Half the people on UK roads genuinely worry me with what appears to be vastly inattentive tunnel-vision driving.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
Indeed, the 'I'm alright Jacks' have got to go!
also for the rest (especially the flying part...)
Some good points but I don't agree with tbe left lane overtaking.
Those lemons who just sit there can't be trusted to check one side, let alone two. Their highly likely to just drift over and wipe somebody out.
Strictly enforce a minimum speed limit (you can use the same average speed cameras for that), no overtaking for HGV and as you say, draconian measures for lane squatters. They're as big a menace as reckless speeders.
Nice outfitIndeed, the 'I'm alright Jacks' have got to go!
also for the rest (especially the flying part...)
Rita_Poon
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The incredibly apt term is 'undertaking'.
It's perfect, innit?
With that bad finger ??? ??
Rita_Poon
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He's a roadie/bus driver?
tommye
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I smoked as much of my weed as I could tbh.
Got through a couple of grammes at least so that should help
tommye
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chrismpw
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Higher ... but not statistically significant given the figures.
tommye
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That does tiling, fits bathrooms and wetrooms, kitchens, floor laying, locksmith, damp course work, plastering, joinery, plumbing, roofing, upvc doors/windows etc etc etc when he's not on his bus or on here.
Well you did ask for the stats lol They indicate a 70% increase in death rate on the Autobahn compared with UK motorways. And not all of the Autobahn network is free of any speed restrictions... about a third of it has speed limits of 130Kph (80mph) or lower.
Clearly speed isn't the only factor in road safety (I don't even believe its the predominating factor), but to suggest it has no bearing on safety whatsoever seems like a stretch.
Accidents are a "holes in a swiss cheese" chain of events. If you enforce one hole to be slightly smaller then there's less chance of them all lining up.
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