Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

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The land and the area surrounding is worth a lot more with the development (ANY development!) built on it.

The current 'hot button' in this country is 'jobs' and a multimillion pound development, siting multimillion pound businesses means the creation of a lot of jobs, and not just ones directly on site.

But lets fight it all because KEIOC say so, they have their nice unobstructed views and are in with the licencees in the area of Goodison, lets help keep the selfish furnished in the luxury they have a birthright too.

Oh I'm all for realism mate.

700 jobs held open exclusively for the local population for 12 months. Now, weigh that against the jobs lost in retail from 'uplift' from retail in surrounding authourities (in fact, even within the Knowsley authority in places like Huyton and Prescot) and the potential jobs in Skelmersdale and St Helens regeneration - plans which will be thrown onto the scrapheap if Destination Juggernaut gets the nod.

Over to you Mrs Blears.
 
Jobs and 55,000 visitors every other week.

Theres no hope about it. Definitely will bring more income than a few makeshift 2/3 bedroom private housing.

Why was Joe Anderson testifying on behalf of Everton then that the club leaving Walton won't affect Walton at all?

If Everton leaving has no impact on Walton's finances, then Everton going to Kirkby can have no impact on Kirkby finances, surely?

What jobs are going to be available on a retail park as well? Stacking shelves? Supervising people stacking shelves? Cleaning up?
 
Why was Joe Anderson testifying on behalf of Everton then that the club leaving Walton won't affect Walton at all?

If Everton leaving has no impact on Walton's finances, then Everton going to Kirkby can have no impact on Kirkby finances, surely?

What jobs are going to be available on a retail park as well? Stacking shelves? Supervising people stacking shelves? Cleaning up?[/quote]

Sheena Ramsey: 'these jobs though will be the first step on their career ladder'. That's probably where she started out, stacking shelves at an Oxbridge tuck shop. Finger on the pulse that woman, and not a hint of condescension.
 

Why was Joe Anderson testifying on behalf of Everton then that the club leaving Walton won't affect Walton at all?

Hes quite clearly lying.

If Everton leaving has no impact on Walton's finances, then Everton going to Kirkby can have no impact on Kirkby finances, surely?

:lol: Behave

What jobs are going to be available on a retail park as well? Stacking shelves? Supervising people stacking shelves? Cleaning up?

What exactly is your point? Isn't that good enough for the, as you described, Kirkby tramps?
 
Hes quite clearly lying.



:lol: Behave



What exactly is your point? Isn't that good enough for the, as you described, Kirkby tramps?

So Everton used the evidence of a liar at the Inquiry?

I doubt the beggar that asked me for 20p in the Maccies drive-thru would be applying for a job in Tesco anyway to be honest. He was, after all, a tramp, and tramps don't tend to want jobs.

You live in Kirkby though, and you're proud of it, so I would imagine you'll want to stay there and have kids etc...

Do you really want the only local opportunities for your children to be stacking shelves or cleaning up?

Would you not prefer your council to be trying to find something better for your town?
 
So Everton used the evidence of a liar at the Inquiry?

I doubt the beggar that asked me for 20p in the Maccies drive-thru would be applying for a job in Tesco anyway to be honest. He was, after all, a tramp, and tramps don't tend to want jobs.

You live in Kirkby though, and you're proud of it, so I would imagine you'll want to stay there and have kids etc...

Do you really want the only local opportunities for your children to be stacking shelves or cleaning up?

Would you not prefer your council to be trying to find something better for your town?

Very snobish of you isnt it? Especially in this economic climate, a job is a job no matter what profession its in.
 
Very snobish of you isnt it? Especially in this economic climate, a job is a job no matter what profession its in.

Once again, your short-sightedness sees you miss the point entirely

A job is a job, regardless, but that doesn't build a strong community or diverse population though

If the only jobs available are low-paid jobs, then those with better qualifications will move away to find better paid work, leaving behind those who have too many ties to follow suit, and end up forced into stacking shelves, or those not bright enough to follow suit

Danny wanted to be a speech therapist not long back, I doubt he'd agree that stacking shelves is the same thing - maybe short term, but some people like to look further than where the next meal is coming from
 

it's the kind of job he bounces between mate, so he's taking it personally

There is the dignity of labour aspect, though. He can comfort himself with that when he's on the rank cursing pensioners getting into other people's superior taxis.
 
So a job in retail isnt a profession now? Go figure



Says he who has failed at everything, failed journo, failed doctor:lol:

no, a job in retail is not a profession - it is a job

According to Wikipedia, a profession arises when any trade or occupation transforms itself through "the development of formal qualifications based upon education and examinations, the emergence of regulatory bodies with powers to admit and discipline members, and some degree of monopoly rights."

it also lists a selection of attributes a "profession" must have to be considered a "profession" such as


  1. Skill based on theoretical knowledge: Professionals are assumed to have extensive theoretical knowledge (e.g. medicine, law, scripture or engineering) and to possess skills based on that knowledge that they are able to apply in practice.
  2. Professional association: Professions usually have professional bodies organized by their members, which are intended to enhance the status of their members and have carefully controlled entrance requirements.
  3. Extensive period of education: The most prestigious professions usually require at least three years at university.
None of these are required to work in Tescos stacking shelves

It even lists some examples of professions for you

Examples of professions

Professions include, for example: Physicians, Dentists, Pharmacists, Lawyers, Accountants, Veterinarians, Engineers, Hospitality Industry, Teachers, Diplomats, Commissioned Officers, Professors, Clergy, Urban Planners, Architects, Physical Therapists, Nurses, Occupational Therapists, Chiropractors, Social Workers.


No taxi drivers or shelf stackers there though.
 

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