Stones tells Everton he wants Man City transfer

[Mountfield1985]

There's no way the club are selling him until we've signed a couple of high profile players.

But I do fully expect both of these things to happen.

 

[jinkyali]

is that what's getting reported 53m? unbelievable amount of money that for a centre back

Apparently the club have insisted on a world record bid.

My bet is it will be fifty cash with some add on's.

 

[evertonfootballclub]

There's no way the club are selling him until we've signed a couple of high profile players.

But I do fully expect both of these things to happen.

You say that, but this is Everton...

Fully expect Stones to go and then silence for a good week, before bringing somebody completley underwhelming in.

 

[Khalekan]

Overall i call it the rooney effect.

Can't blame rooney for leaving, went on to bigger and better things. Hell even arteta , lescott, technically rodwell all went on and won things whilst we rotted away going nowhere.

So yeah, Will stones have a more successful career with better coaches and team mates? Yes he will, absolutely. I personally don't blame him for wanting that as you say.

And my motto now seems to be, until we actually do anything, we are a mid table team and so leaving us now is a step up in regards to city and the like. Same as we were going down when rooney left, had gone nowhere with the others etc.

It would be lovely if our fans stopped being so "sympathetic" with players who want to "further their careers" or line their pockets and instead put the interest of EFC ahead of these entitled buggers.

If we all took that attitude then we will remain "a mid table team" and we should just let any player who thinks he can take a "step up" walk out the minute a "bigger club" comes calling.

You would have Everton as the Uriah Heep of English football with that type of thinking, Ash.

We are Everton and we are ever so 'umble

Stones can just do one as far as I am concerned.

And far from not "blaming" him for wanting to leave, I think he should be more "sympathetic" to the hopes and aspirations of the football club which plucked him from obscurity.....when the only serious rival to us for his signature was Wigan FFS...gave him a chance at first team football he would not have had at City, stuck by him when mistake was piling upon mistake on the pitch and gave him a platform to become an international player.

All in a couple of years.

Make no mistake here......Everton FC owes Stones bugger all.

He on the other hand owes his current elevated status to our Grand Old Team and to David Moyes and Roberto Martinez in particular.

As others have said, he is valued far above what he has shown on the pitch thus far and he may or may not turn out to be a great player in the end.

One thing is for sure.....the phoney war is over for him and City will be expecting fifty million quid performances from him right away.

And their fans won't indulge his mistakes on the grounds that "he is young but he will be great in two or three years time".

As the much lamented @davek once said......"he might turn into the next Beckanbauer.....but let's just take the money and let somebody else teach him to fill that role".

 

[Ashtonian]

It would be lovely if our fans stopped being so "sympathetic" with players who want to "further their careers" or line their pockets and instead put the interest of EFC ahead of these entitled buggers.

If we all took that attitude then we will remain "a mid table team" and we should just let any player who thinks he can take a "step up" walk out the minute a "bigger club" comes calling.

You would have Everton as the Uriah Heep of English football with that type of thinking, Ash.

We are Everton and we are ever so 'umble

Stones can just do one as far as I am concerned.

And far from not "blaming" him for wanting to leave, I think he should be more "sympathetic" to the hopes and aspirations of the football club which plucked him from obscurity.....when the only serious rival to us for his signature was Wigan FFS...gave him a chance at first team football he would not have had at City, stuck by him when mistake was piling upon mistake on the pitch and gave him a platform to become an international player.

All in a couple of years.

Make no mistake here......Everton FC owes Stones bugger all.

He on the other hand owes his current elevated status to our Grand Old Team and to David Moyes and Roberto Martinez in particular.

As others have said, he is valued far above what he has shown on the pitch thus far and he may or may not turn out to be a great player in the end.

One thing is for sure.....the phoney war is over for him and City will be expecting fifty million quid performances from him right away.

And their fans won't indulge his mistakes on the grounds that "he is young but he will be great in two or three years time".

As the much lamented @davek once said......"he might turn into the next Beckanbauer.....but let's just take the money and let somebody else teach him to fill that role".

Why not take that attitude? We are a mid table team, and in fact if stones goes before we sign anyone else then technically the squad is steadily getting worse.

Or the fact we have won nothing in 21 years, and not really come close to changing that in all honesty.

what changes this stance is the team on the pitch, and getting those results / places / trophies / signings. Until then we are no better, and considering stones leaving now. Never mind who our manager is now, or who we are meant to be signing, for 21 years none of that has mattered because come the end of the day, we have got nowhere!

So yeah, sorry for being realistic. I will start asking questions of players wanting to leave the minute we aren't just another west brom/stoke level team.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

@The Esk Question for you mate... While i don't think we are in a sell to buy situation, does the club maybe want to move stones on first for the Short term cost thing before they commit to wages?

 

[Mountfield1985]

You say that, but this is Everton...

Fully expect Stones to go and then silence for a good week, before bringing somebody completley underwhelming in.

This is Everton, but not as we've known it for the last 20 years.

 

[evertonfootballclub]

This is Everton, but not as we've known it for the last 20 years.

Still too many of the old regime there for my liking. Too many people who held us back so much for so long. I'll feel better when Kenwright and Elstone are but distant memories. I see loads of clubs signing quality players, really makes me wonder why we aren't when we desperately need a number of top players to kick on.

 

[Efcjake]

I have perspective. He handed in a transfer request. The club rejected it it. WE (the fans) had a chance to show him he was wanted and we acted like a child spitting its dummy out. There's some perspective........lad.

I don't think any amount of love from the fans was going to replace the extra 100k per week that was motivating him to put in his transfer request.

 

[Khalekan]

Why not take that attitude? We are a mid table team.

You lost me right there.

We might be a mid table team, but we are not a mid table club.

And if everyone, from Mr. Mo down, took your attitude we will never be any higher.

Thankfully they don't

 

[The Esk]

@The Esk Question for you mate... While i don't think we are in a sell to buy situation, does the club maybe want to move stones on first for the Short term cost thing before they commit to wages?

No mate, pretty sure they'll want to land a defender before releasing Stones.

 

[Ashtonian]

You lost me right there.

We might be a mid table team, but we are not a mid table club.

And if everyone, from Mr. Mo down, took your attitude we will never be any higher.

Thankfully they don't

We haven't gone anywhere league wise for 30 years, even worse.

So yes we are a mid table club. We spent very little money, made very little achievements and watched so many clubs overtake us in the process. Or are we a top half team? Still pretty much meaningless.

The fact we might be signing mata witsel or any others is not down to the club one bit, it is money bringing them here. I am fine with that thought as we need the better player to improve league wise but our history means sweet FA these days because just to put it out there.........

most players we want to sign were not even born when we last were a signficiant club in this country.

So yeah, if we can change that now and kick start it with cash as it seems to be the plan then fantastic, i will be made up to see better players on the pitch and hopefully success again. But we are as you say a mid table team / club / whatever else. We have done nothing in 30 years other than falter and bottle out of everything.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

I have perspective. He handed in a transfer request. The club rejected it it. WE (the fans) had a chance to show him he was wanted and we acted like a child spitting its dummy out. There's some perspective........lad.

If you say so mate... x

 

[Carlito]

It'll be funny to see the reaction if he attempts to flee the Manchester derby, similar to his infamous Anfield flight in April.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

You lost me right there.

We might be a mid table team, but we are not a mid table club.

And if everyone, from Mr. Mo down, took your attitude we will never be any higher.

Thankfully they don't

What would you have us do though mate?

Demand Stones stay and stick him on a bench?

If he doesn't want to be here, cash in and sell him IMO

It's nothing personal from his side of things, so I don't see why we should be getting stuck into him either

He's getting offered an arse load of money to play for Pep Guardiola, one of the most successful managers of this generation, and we're going to net a very tidy sum from his eventual sale as well

He gets the move he wants and we get the money we need to buy a quality replacement

It's not a comment on our status as a club, but more an example of the pull someone like Guardiola has. He's a blockbuster managerial appointment and players are going to want to play for him. End of

We've made, what seems to be, a very solid managerial appointment of our own and he's going to be given money over successive windows to try and make us into a force in the game once more

We need to get away from this "Boo hoo, lack of ambition" knee jerking every time a player wants to leave or we go after a player who isn't 30+ Million and accept that not everything at Everton is going to change right away

Everton's path to, hopefully, the top table of English Football again is going to take time and what we need more than anything is patience and a touch of perspective

Stones is leaving now because Man City is a better proposition than Everton is at this exact moment. That doesn't mean they will be in the future, but right now they most definately are

So ultimately, why get angry at Stones?

He wants out? Fine. Good luck to him, he won't be part of the re-build and he won't get to enjoy the fruits of the labours of his Everton colleagues who stay and also the ones who come in to replace him

Hey ho, life goes on

Life's too short to get angry over us selling a player for 50+ Million Pounds, when we bought him for a comparable pittance from the lower leagues