Summer 2018 Transfer Window

[KaiserEFC]

Mangala has already shown himself to be nowhere near the level required to be a premier league player. How could anyone possibly think he’d have been any different with us.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

he literally does none of these things.

Compared to Jags and Williams he does. Jags gets completely dominated every set piece. Williams has the footspeed of an elephant. Neither can spot a pass.

 

[Raino85]

It's all very well saying we will get this amount or that amount for all of our dud players, we first of all need to find someone who will buy them, would you?.

Agreed, and find teams who are willing to pay these players the salarys we are offering them too.
Its all well and good saying sell Schneierlin back to France, but no one bar PSG could afford his wages

 

[LocalNative]

Mangala has already shown himself to be nowhere near the level required to be a premier league player. How could anyone possibly think he’d have been any different with us.

If Allardyce stays we'll sign him. He's completing his rehab with us meaning we're clearly still keen.

Another reason to bin the fat man.

 

[bluestevon]

Agreed, and find teams who are willing to pay these players the salarys we are offering them too.
Its all well and good saying sell Schneierlin back to France, but no one bar PSG could afford his wages

Similar situation we've had with players in the past really, and one that most clubs end up with the problem off in this league, yobo, heitenga, shandy andy, we struggled massively to get shut of all three due to wages.

Out of players we could be looking at shifting on, the wages won't be much of an issue if there's interest from ok there English teams, Lennon, cleverly showed that as did the Sunderland buys from us.

So I'd guess Schneider line 100% would have prem teams after him and for a decent fee also, same goes for Niasse, Williams, Keane - should we want rid, and even Bolasie.

Besic and Jags possibly also or at least championship clubs would likely match wages with what they're on now.

Sandro was so cheap that a buying club will factor in a likely low purchase price from us with having to match his high wage, means we won't be making any serious profit on that lad.
The big loss and problem us with Klassen, don't see any team in this league willing to match his wage given he's flopped so far, don't see any team abroad coming close to giving us half the money we paid with what wages he will want. So gonna be a hard one to get rid of

 

[Nymzee]

In the game time he did get mangala was absolutely shocking, and it was fully expected judging by his previous showings for city in the prem, awful signing

Fair enough, not particularly arsed about a 6 month loanee myself.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Fair enough, not particularly arsed about a 6 month loanee myself.

Let's hope it stays that way!

 

[Nymzee]

Let's hope it stays that way!

Depends who the manager is.

 

[Raino85]

I think the players age needs to be a factor when considering who we target this summer.

Players 22 & under (9) Davies, Vlasic, Calvert Lewin, Holgate, Kenny, Lookman, Onyekuru, Dowell, Baningime

Players 28-32 - (10) Schneiderlin, Bolasie, Walcott, Martina, MCcarthy, Gueye, Sigurdsson, Coleman, Mori (28 next March), Niasse

Players 32+ (4) Baines, Jagielka, Williams, Rooney

Players 23-27 (4) Pickford (young for a keeper), Keane, Tosun, Klaassen

Modern day premier league football, a players prime tends to be that 23-27 age, we have 4 in that age group, with one of them being ostrecised and the other a keeper, which is still very young for a keeper.
Liverpool have 12 (13 if you count origi) players in that age group Karius, Clyne, Van Dijk, Firminho, Salah, Moreno, Mane, Ox, Can (although leaving), robertson, ings, matip
Spurs have 11 Trippier, Son, Kane, Lamela, Wanyama, Dier, Erikkson, Aurier, Moura, Davies & Winks (23 next feb)

22 and under liverpool have 6 Ojo, Woodburn, Gomez, Alexander Arnold, Grujic & Solanke
spurs have 6 walker Peters, Sanchez, carter vickers, onomah, foyth & Alli

32 + liverpool have 2 milner & Klavan
Spurs 32+ have 3 Lloris, Vorm & Llorente (2 of which are keepers)

28-32 liverpool have 5 sturridge, Wijnaldum, Lovren, Lallana & Mignolet
spur have 4 - vertonghen, alderweirald, Dembele & Sissoko

Pretty much means we can only really go and buy in one age bracket - the 23-27 group, we dont have enough- in peak and hungry (ashley williams) players.
Alot of the 28-32s are on the decline, this is around hte time players tend to have to reinvent themselves and it either works or it dosent, they have familys with kids so football isnt necesarily the same priority as it was 3/4 years ago for them, some have got that major move and big contract, its a collection of things that can raise that decline and we have abundances of them

 

[riddick]

We haven't "binned off" Mirallas btw. He's STILL coming back at the end of his loan..

 

[Carlito]

There surely can't be anyone who really believes that buying a slapstick defender like Mangala would be a good idea.

 

[BillBrasky]

The American rags have cycled through all the Man U cast offs (Shaw, Jones, Smalling) and have circled back on us signing Wilshere on a free.

Honestly Wilshere and Shaw would be great. Swerve on Jones and Smalling. Jones is never fit and Smalling gives us nothing that Keane and Holgate can't provide. We need a Tactician at the back along side either one. If anything I'd rather see Daley Blind slotted in a LCB, than those two.

 

[Paulie]

There surely can't be anyone who really believes that buying a slapstick defender like Mangala would be a good idea.

He showed enough in the minimal involvement he had against Palace that he is a calamity.

 

[billyblue80]

The American rags have cycled through all the Man U cast offs (Shaw, Jones, Smalling) and have circled back on us signing Wilshere on a free.

Honestly Wilshere and Shaw would be great. Swerve on Jones and Smalling. Jones is never fit and Smalling gives us nothing that Keane and Holgate can't provide. We need a Tactician at the back along side either one. If anything I'd rather see Daley Blind slotted in a LCB, than those two.

Blind would be a good utility player. Covers left back, center back and midfield

 

[billyblue80]

Can we really class Mangala as a bad loan signing? Or Lookman wanting a loan as a slight on Sam?

Tosun and Walcott are hits so far, Mangala couldn’t judge. Binned off Lennon and Kev.

I don’t want him as our manager but his only transfer window was overall a success in my eyes.

Yes. But I agree on balance it was a decent window even with those two mistakes(Mangala is hopeless and if you were Lookman would you want to stay and get splinters in your arse for a prehistoric dinosaur manager like Fat head or bob off to RB?!), but it wasn't just his buys, I was referring to but his negative attitude and comments off the field, too. Plus the obvious Prem experience bias he and Walsh have.