Summer Transfer Window 2017

[BlueToff]

Think people over rate him. His set pieces are excellent but he contributes much less than Ross in open play.

It's a myth Gylfi isn't good from open play though.

Ideally - and I think this is what Koeman wants - we'll have both of them.

 

[blueblue]

I think it may well be Rooney to play that role ...if he signs.
A role that would suit Rooney ideally.

 

[flibbyflob]

But it shouldn't be the main reason players want to join us

It was how and why City got the big players in originally, we have to accept it is what we will have to do.

 

[bluestevon]

This is what Everton have done to us, quivering wrecks happy to lash £100k+ per week at a slightly above average footballer. I liked him when he was at Spurs but I don't want us to throw a huge sum of money at him or pay what Swansea would want.

Takes a great dead ball, then again players who can do that seem to regress amazingly in ability once they play for us to do so, see Baines with corners and everyone with free-kicks

Suppose like with everything it depends who else comes in as well

 

[Bungle]

Definitely need a player for that role.

Whether he's the right one... I'm not sure.

I wouldn't be against the signing but ultimately if we didn't get him I wouldn't be devastated.

Definitely agree that we need a player in that role, I'm just not keen on it being him. I think I maybe dislike him more because he is talked about like he'd drag us into the champions league on his own.

Me either , but I'm afraid to come out of the closet on it
I'd prefer Mata or Fabregas or even someone of FIFA I've never heard off
Dries Martens would be boss

This is a safe place mate, we'll protect you.

Think people over rate him. His set pieces are excellent but he contributes much less than Ross in open play.

Yeah that's where I am with him, it's a lot to pay for a few decent corners and free kicks.

 

[bol-uk]

Think people over rate him. His set pieces are excellent but he contributes much less than Ross in open play.

13 assists say otherwise (Ross 9)

9 goals ross 5

MOTM 4 times last season, Ross once

He must be doing something right.

 

[ijjysmith]

Is it just me that doesn't want Sigurdsson?

Nope.

He's alright. But I think looks better because he's surrounded by Leon Britton and Leroy Fer.

 

[bluestevon]

Definitely agree that we need a player in that role, I'm just not keen on it being him. I think I maybe dislike him more because he is talked about like he'd drag us into the champions league on his own.



This is a safe place mate, we'll protect you.



Yeah that's where I am with him, it's a lot to pay for a few decent corners and free kicks.

If we had Mountfield, Sharp and Gray playing for us, then I'd love him here, as we'd score shed-loads from corners/free-kicks.

with our gang of midgets and players who don't seem to have a clue how to head a ball, then maybe not as much

 

[Harryflashman]

We struggle to beat clubs to players. Maybe our one big advantage should be that we can pay big wages.

I appreciate we'd all like a transfer target to say they were boyhood Evertonians and dreamed of playing here but it's not going to happen . We saw in the summer the players we are targeting are also on the radar of those above us and champions league clubs around Europe , those clubs are all more attractive propositions.

As a result we have to make ourselves appealing in whatever way we can , we can offering champions league footy so money is a weapon we can use. I'm not saying we should be stupid and squander money like Leeds United but we should be using wages to compete , to make players take note. We're concerned about big wages and the likes of Loveren is on a £100k a week.

 

[bluestevon]

13 assists say otherwise (Ross 9)

9 goals ross 5

MOTM 4 times last season, Ross once

He must be doing something right.

Yup he aims corners and free-kicks for the head of Llorente, he does that very right

 

[bluestevon]

I appreciate we'd all like a transfer target to say they were boyhood Evertonians and dreamed of playing here but it's not going to happen . We saw in the summer the players we are targeting are also on the radar of those above us and champions league clubs around Europe , those clubs are all more attractive propositions.

As a result we have to make ourselves appealing in whatever way we can , we can offering champions league footy so money is a weapon we can use. I'm not saying we should be stupid and squander money like Leeds United but we should be using wages to compete , to make players take note. We're concerned about big wages and the likes of Loveren is on a £100k a week.

and thats exactly why targeting players in the premiership already is a weird one, by and large the league is paying much higher than any other league in the world - so your immediately setting a high bar you then have to go massively over.

Doubt that you'd have to give a lad from Ajax 130k per week to massively turn their head

 

[brieverton]

The club will be sensible with bids and contract offers, we know that, and it makes sense.

There will indeed come a time though, and perhaps this is it with Sigurdsson, that they have to go the extra mile and make improved offers to players to get deals over the line.

A succession of stalled and failed transfers is the last thing we need this summer.

The cost of missing out on 3-4 key targets would be significant, and the thing is we are likely to make that extra couple of million back with higher league placings and cup runs anyway.

 

[toffeeblue9]

No offence but your wrong on nearly everything you've just said there mate

STCC is not effected at all by the SKY deal, it has zero effect and cannot be used for wages
FPP and STCC are completely unrelated

STCC you have left out the massive effect of player trading upon it
You have omitted the yearly increase of 7m allowed under the regulations

Yearly allowable increase, Increase in sponsorship & new sponsorship deals, already agreed player sales (Cleverley), Future almost certain player sales (Deulofueu and others)

We will be able to increase the wages by a very low estimate of 50m this season, a much more probable figure would be around 75m, neither of these factors in a sale of either Ross or Rom orboth.

so minimum of 1m per week, more likley around about 1.5m per week will be well within our limits allowed by the regulations

and that is an increase of that amount, we will also have a huge amount of wages available from players who leave this summer going into that pot

So yeah Moshiri's big pockets will be the limiting factor, we will be able to pay wages for as many players as we can attract/should want, STCC is NOT any form of limit upon us this season, the limiting factor is what the owner decides he is willing to bankroll

I've omitted all of the stuff you mentioned as I didn't want to turn it into an essay, but you're right. Also, I shouldn't have referenced the Sky deal as again you're right, it's about non-broadcast revenues.

Other than the Sky bit, I'm not sure what I've said there which is incorrect.

 

[milks]

Is it just me that doesn't want Sigurdsson?

Probably.
You are a contrary bear after all.

 

[bluestevon]

I've omitted all of the stuff you mentioned as I didn't want to turn it into an essay, but you're right. Also, I shouldn't have referenced the Sky deal as again you're right, it's about non-broadcast revenues.

Other than the Sky bit, I'm not sure what I've said there which is incorrect.

Mate, STCC is in no way shape or form gonna be any limit on what we do or don't do is more the point.

anyone who bangs the drum it is, is basically making false excuses up for any underwhelming summer