Summer transfer window 2023

[davek]

O Jogo keep flip flopping on this story, they put out the story last night of him supposedly being surprised, then earlier today said the fee was agreed now they’re saying this. Shows how unreliable they are as a source

No necessarily contradictory...

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

People keep saying this as if that is good enough. Being better than Maupay is at least 3 levels below what we actually need. Maupay is terrible, Adams is very bad. We need to stop signing strikers that don't score goals.

This is the thing that really gets my goat mate. It's not like we've got a team full of players ready to score goals and they just need some lump to free them up, or someone to do the hard running and pressing - no one scores in our side.

If Danjuma is Gray's replacement, he will probably bag about 10 vs Gray's 6. If Adams scores his usual 6, we are up 5 goals on Maupay. Thay would not be enough of an improvement throughout the side. And this would still necessitate Doucoure scoring at a rate he doesn't normally and McNeil equalling or bettering a season in which he doubled his entire goals output of his whole career.

Gana doesn't score, Garner (though I love him) doesn't score, Onana doesn't score, our full backs don't attack. Chermiti is a kid, who is unlikely to contribute many in his first year. If we sign Adams, we are still in the same position of being desperate for DCL to stay fit and recapture his form of 3 years ago - so what's the point?

Dia will score goals (and his stats in a poor side demonstrate his qualities), Iheanacho will likely score more than Adams (though I don't really want him), I think Piroe would score more, Akor Adams and so on. We NEED a player who is better in front of goal, not just someone to fight and run the channels. I don't know why people can't see this.

 

[davek]

Is Sulemana actually good? I couldn’t tell the few times I’ve actually seen him play. Bits of good play followed by a bits of confusing play from what I recall.

Lots of pace, which is half the battle in the PL, I suppose.

I'm just relieved we're in the market now for a couple of forwards.

Adams puts himself about and tries hard; this Chermeti gets himself in the box but looks like he needs a touch to set himself he might not get in the PL. Maybe 10 goals between them if they arrive.

Overall if we can get someone who can fill in when DCL isn't playing...which is to say half a season...then we might get safe.

 

[DavidH]

I would say me eyeing up J-Lo knowing it will come to nothing

You've seen her in the flesh? Talk me through this

 

[DavidH]

Lots of pace, which is half the battle in the PL, I suppose.

I'm just relieved we're in the market now for a couple of forwards.

Adams puts himself about and tries hard; this Chermeti gets himself in the box but looks like he needs a touch to set himself he might not get in the PL. Maybe 10 goals between them if they arrive.

Overall if we can get someone who can fill in when DCL isn't playing...which is to say half a season...then we might get safe.

I've given my nieces colouring books with more positivity than you

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If we keep Holgate I can see Dyche using him at RB and pushing Patterson up top if/when Dom is out. Patterson has the drive and physicality to bully defenders and hold the ball. This talk of Che Adams is nonsense.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Right, so seeing as everyone seems to think that Che Adams is a decent player to add, let's look at his stats:

Then, let's compare that to some other strikers at teams around the bottom last year:

Now let's compare his stats to a handful of players we have been linked with over the past 12 months who also happen to have been playing for absolutely rubbish, relegation threatened teams:

Boulaye Dia:

In short, the signing of Adams would be woeful. I'm sure no one would want the likes of Solanke or Awonyi, yet they are in the Adams category. There are many good young players out there and 3 older players (about Adams' age) whose data I have shared, who would be far, far better. Adams is just and shows the usual Everton attitude of let's just get a lad we know with PL experience who has been a handful a couple of times against us.

 

[joebocop]

Right, so seeing as everyone seems to think that Che Adams is a decent player to add, let's look at his stats:
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Then, let's compare that to some other strikers at teams around the bottom last year:

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Now let's compare his stats to a handful of players we have been linked with over the past 12 months who also happen to have been playing for absolutely rubbish, relegation threatened teams:

Boulaye Dia:
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In short, the signing of Adams would be woeful. I'm sure no one would want the likes of Solanke or Awonyi, yet they are in the Adams category. There are many good young players out there and 3 older players (about Adams' age) whose data I have shared, who would be far, far better. Adams is just and shows the usual Everton attitude of let's just get a lad we know with PL experience who has been a handful a couple of times against us.

Isn't the general consensus that he is the least appealing of all the players we've been linked to? Still tentatively linked I might add, so not worth worrying about just yet.

 

[Bainesy come back]

Right, so seeing as everyone seems to think that Che Adams is a decent player to add, let's look at his stats:
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Then, let's compare that to some other strikers at teams around the bottom last year:

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Now let's compare his stats to a handful of players we have been linked with over the past 12 months who also happen to have been playing for absolutely rubbish, relegation threatened teams:

Boulaye Dia:
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In short, the signing of Adams would be woeful. I'm sure no one would want the likes of Solanke or Awonyi, yet they are in the Adams category. There are many good young players out there and 3 older players (about Adams' age) whose data I have shared, who would be far, far better. Adams is just and shows the usual Everton attitude of let's just get a lad we know with PL experience who has been a handful a couple of times against us.

You missed the bit showing he's in the top percentile for being a registered donkey who misses sitters from under the crossbar

 

[billyblue80]

Not keen on Adams he's bog average at finishing, but I'll say this he's more physical and he can lead a line, he's more of a backup 9 than Maupay is and he can come straight in. If Chermiti is the third choice gamble on the potential we do need a more experienced option, I would have taken Dia or Iheanacho before him but we aren't exactly attractive right now and I am guessing those two would want bigger wages and cost more. Let's see anyway it's been reported we have asked about a few strikers maybe they are seeing who is available.

 

[Bainesy come back]

Isn't the general consensus that he is the least appealing of all the players we've been linked to? Still tentatively linked I might add, so not worth worrying about just yet.

I think the point they are making is that worryingly some people are rationalizing signing him or even actually want him. Scary.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Isn't the general consensus that he is the least appealing of all the players we've been linked to? Still tentatively linked I might add, so not worth worrying about just yet.

Reading loads of stuff of people convincing themselves that he is worth signing, as they did with Maupay. My point is categorically that he is not!

 

[billyblue80]

People keep saying this as if that is good enough. Being better than Maupay is at least 3 levels below what we actually need. Maupay is terrible, Adams is very bad. We need to stop signing strikers that don't score goals.

Apparently we could have had Watkins last year if we had sold Gordon and could have had Adams over Maupay. I think Adams is more of a fit for a nine in our system but that's not to say he is anything more than a physical striker who will weigh in with a modest return. But as a backup maybe that's the best we can do

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Not keen on Adams he's bog average at finishing, but I'll say this he's more physical and he can lead a line, he's more of a backup 9 than Maupay is and he can come straight in. If Chemiti is the third choice gamble on the potential we do need a more experienced option, I would have taken Dia or Ihneanacho before him but we aren't exactly attractive right now and I am guessing those two would want bigger wages and cost more.

Like my earlier post said that is useless to us. We are not a side that scores goals. We don't need a workhorse to free up our goalscorers, we need to add a goalscorer.

Also, as far as the workhorse bit goes, he's put in the shade by Awonyi and Rodrigo and on a par really with Solanke, so

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Apparently we could have had Watkins last year if we had sold Gordon and could have had Adams over Maupay. I think Adams is more of a fit for a nine in our system but that's not to say he is anything more than a physical striker who will weigh in with a modest return. But as a backup maybe that's the best we can do

Why should we be signing backups mate? Who is going to be our no 1? Perma-injured Dom or the raw 19 year old Chermiti? We need to be signing someone to be our no 1 striker. If Dom gets back fit enough and in good enough form to oust our new no 1, or play alongside him, then great. But after 2 years of constant injuries we would be idiots to be buying a back up.

If we can afford Che Adams we can easily afford a player who will give us what we need.