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Summer transfer window 2023

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davek said:
This manager is dong my 'kin head in over him. "Not quite there yet...still working on him crossing over between training and getting extra fitness work".

The pampering of him is all contributing to his no shows. Buy forwards and forget about him...or sell him.

Two seasons in a row we've almost been relegated and one of the major reasons for that is the fawning that goes on over this no mark and the comic notion he can get us goals.
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100% dont even blame the lad now is the clubs fault is nothing new as you said 2 seasons now into the 3rd. Unless this chimiti is becoming the 2nd choice a massive risk or he puts maupay in, who he didnt rate enough to start over gray. A player he is willing to let go in a game we had to win to stay up, just shows how poor this club is run
 
blulouie said:
No way
We don't have a recognised winger available for the start of the season.

And we'll have Muppet up front.

It's in worse shape than when the season finished.
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uglykidjoe1982 said:
I don’t get the logic here. Team just stayed up last year, this squad is worse in lots of ways. How does that keep us up? Not having a go, just interested in your train of thought/ optimism
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This is assuming that the form under Lampard will be the norm this season. There’s no reason why it should be with Dyche in charge. The only data points we have to go on is the ppg under Dyche last season which extrapolated over 38 games would have had us in low/mid 40s. That’s a total highly unlikely to be relegated in any season.

Then you consider some other factors:

The PPG Dyche achieved was largely done without many home games against the bottom half (most likely opportunity for points). Lampard managed most of these games v Southampton Wolves Leicester Notthingham Forest Palace and picked up a measly amount of points. Dyche on the other hand won his only games against bottom half teams at home in Leeds Bournemouth Brentford. Add in a larger number of these opportunities over a full season and his ppg should be higher.

Attacking options: When Dyche arrived he had an injured DCL (after the Arsenal game), Gordon was sold, Maupay Simms McNeil Gray Iwobi as attacking options. This season he should have DCL (hopefully for longer) Danjuma Chermiti Maupay McNeil Iwobi and potentially even Dele. I’d rather have the second group of players than the first group.

Full season: Last season Dyche came in with confidence on the floor, injuries, little time to make big training changes etc. Now he has a fresh slate for players to start with confidence, he’s had a full preseason with them, and he has the opportunity of the Jan window.

Worse teams in the league: I find it hard to
believe that Luton Sheffield United Burnley will all be better than the three that went down last season. Southampton were a decent side with decent players and they finished bottom behind Leeds and Leicester teams that prem clubs want to take players from. I think the bottom half will be weaker this season giving us a better chance to survive.
 
davek said:
He has good feet but the trouble is he doesn't know what to do with the ball they carry. Head down trying to slalom through challenge after challenge.

I said a while ago about Gnonto: he is not a team player. A team player has their head up and only reverts to jinking in and out of 2/3 defenders as a very last resort...but that's his starting point.

Undoubtedly he has skills, but he has no discipline or judgment and therefore is not a PL standard player.
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Not saying he will reach the same heights, but ronaldo used to play like that when he signed for Man U.

He is inexperienced and these things are normal in a 19 year old. Gray on the other hand is 26 and still doing the same thing.
 

mikel_88 said:
100% dont even blame the lad now is the clubs fault is nothing new as you said 2 seasons now into the 3rd. Unless this chimiti is becoming the 2nd choice a massive risk or he puts maupay in, who he didnt rate enough to start over gray. A player he is willing to let go in a game we had to win to stay up, just shows how poor this club is run
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We have just over 3 weeks to get a proper forward in or we're in a relegation scrap for sure.

Unbelievable the way this club has been walking a tightrope with its own PL existence.

There should be riots in Goodison Park never mind protests outside it.
 
People thinking that we should just about be safe from relegation aren't factoring in the likelihood of a points deduction. Case is due in October and nailed on we get some sort of penalty.....

That's why our start is so important, on paper the fixtures look easier, that's why it's unforgivable we haven't strengthend problem areas before the start
 
Verbal Kint said:
People thinking that we should just about be safe from relegation aren't factoring in the likelihood of a points deduction. Case is due in October and nailed on we get some sort of penalty.....

That's why our start is so important, on paper the fixtures look easier, that's why it's unforgivable we haven't strengthend problem areas before the start
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We aren’t getting a points deduction for a stadium tax issue mate. Villa away isn’t “easy” either.
 

Saint Domingo said:
This is assuming that the form under Lampard will be the norm this season. There’s no reason why it should be with Dyche in charge. The only data points we have to go on is the ppg under Dyche last season which extrapolated over 38 games would have had us in low/mid 40s. That’s a total highly unlikely to be relegated in any season.

Then you consider some other factors:

The PPG Dyche achieved was largely done without many home games against the bottom half (most likely opportunity for points). Lampard managed most of these games v Southampton Wolves Leicester Notthingham Forest Palace and picked up a measly amount of points. Dyche on the other hand won his only games against bottom half teams at home in Leeds Bournemouth Brentford. Add in a larger number of these opportunities over a full season and his ppg should be higher.

Attacking options: When Dyche arrived he had an injured DCL (after the Arsenal game), Gordon was sold, Maupay Simms McNeil Gray Iwobi as attacking options. This season he should have DCL (hopefully for longer) Danjuma Chermiti Maupay McNeil Iwobi and potentially even Dele. I’d rather have the second group of players than the first group.

Full season: Last season Dyche came in with confidence on the floor, injuries, little time to make big training changes etc. Now he has a fresh slate for players to start with confidence, he’s had a full preseason with them, and he has the opportunity of the Jan window.

Worse teams in the league: I find it hard to
believe that Luton Sheffield United Burnley will all be better than the three that went down last season. Southampton were a decent side with decent players and they finished bottom behind Leeds and Leicester teams that prem clubs want to take players from. I think the bottom half will be weaker this season giving us a better chance to survive.
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All this is true. Given all these factors it really would take a fairly small overall improvement (obviously focused on attack) to have hope for a relatively comfortable season. The concern however remains that they are making heavy weather of making even that small improvement.
 
MikeH72 said:
We aren’t getting a points deduction for a stadium tax issue mate. Villa away isn’t “easy” either.
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If it is stadium related why is it even being questioned at all? Stadium doesn`t form part of the P&S calculation...

I`ve heard that line a few times and think that isn`t the real reason.
 
Verbal Kint said:
People thinking that we should just about be safe from relegation aren't factoring in the likelihood of a points deduction. Case is due in October and nailed on we get some sort of penalty.....

That's why our start is so important, on paper the fixtures look easier, that's why it's unforgivable we haven't strengthend problem areas before the start
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can we appeal id it goes against us is alot of ways could get us still feel it could be a fine
 

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