Summer transfer window 2023

[Zatara]

Some wishfull thinking going on here.....why would Chelsea go for Onana.? he wasn't even on their radar. Lavi is the one.

There was tentative links between Chelsea and Onana as recently as June. It was Sacha Tavolieri, I believe. He was the guy who broke the Onana to Everton news BTW.

They moved for him in January which is when Onana said he was staying.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Our record buy is Siggurdson and was 6 seasons ago. It also came at the same time we sold Lukaku and Stones.

How many players at the top 6 clubs now have transfer fees higher than that one? Absolutely loads, some could field a whole team of players more expensive than our record signing. Caicedo and Rice are almost triple that number.

There’s just no way our small window of spending can be compared to what the top 6 have done for decades now.

Good shout

 

[Saint Domingo]

We just don't generate enough income. Go into a sports shop anywhere in Europe and you'll find the tops six's shirts on racks. Ask for one of ours and it's "what's an Everton"?

It’s the huge sponsorship deals which distort FFP. It’s not even based on success any more, when was the last time Spurs won anything? But the media talk about Spurs a lot and so a company is happy to give them 10s of millions to put their name on their shirt. Meanwhile if you’re Leicester who actually won two pots recently, the best you can get on the open market will be some dodgy gambling company so you’re forced to try and take money from your owners through the back door, as we tried to do, as Newcastle will try to do. There’s no other way to bridge the gap.

United could have 10 years of utter failure yet they’ll still get bigger sponsor deals than any team outside the top 6 no matter what they do. This allows them to spend what they want whilst the rest are forced into selling their best players.

Thank god for financial regs though, saving clubs from themselves, who knows where Leicester would be now if their owners had been able to buy players last season.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

We never spent anything like them.

We have never paid £50 million for a player - Utd, City and Chelsea all have done that at least 15 times.

Absolutely. We did however spend about half a billion in 4 years which was a lot more even then. Shame we spent it so badly.

 

[Marius57]

I can't see where the negativity is coming from. SD only took over halfway through the season and changed form dramatically even without DCL for the most part. I don't see us struggling with relegation this season despite some newspaper columnists tipping us to go down.

It's my last radiotherapy session today so I'm very upbeat, but that has nothing to do with my positivity regarding the upcoming season.

Best of wishes for the future mate, hope the outcome is positive.

I agree in parts with the SD assessment. Other than our defence is weaker, and without Mina I am quite concerned because had SD persevered with Keane last season, we would have gone down. But now he doesn’t have a Mina to bring into the side.

Hopefully Branthwaite can fill the gap, but I expect Keane has “looked good in training” and is the one that starts.

 

[Eggs]

If it were between Sulemana and Gnonto who are you going for my fellow virgins?

…Ekitike.

 

[kewns]

If it were between Sulemana and Gnonto who are you going for my fellow virgins?

Aww can’t we just have both! Please

 

[Ragnar]

We just don't generate enough income. Go into a sports shop anywhere in Europe and you'll find the tops six's shirts on racks. Ask for one of ours and it's "what's an Everton"?

And what?. This is the bit I don’t understand!. It’s a sport….. a so called competitive sport, why does it matter what a club generates. Why can’t a billionaire buy Luton tomorrow and spend 2 billion on players if he wants. It’s all rigged for the broadcasters to make the most money from keeping the big clubs at the top for viewership numbers.

 

[Zatara]

Absolutely. We did however spend about half a billion in 4 years which was a lot more even then. Shame we spent it so badly.

Might be $500mil not including player sales.

I wonder what the net is since Moshiri came in...cant be too high.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Might be $500mil not including player sales.

I wonder what the net is since Moshiri came in...cant be too high.

We have sold some high value players tbh

 

[brieverton]

Might be $500mil not including player sales.

I wonder what the net is since Moshiri came in...cant be too high.

Can't recall the source but I saw a figure recently that it was £235m net spend.

It's really wages and the lack of sell-on value for those players, combined with lack of commercial revenue, that has done for us.

From being once known as the "Bank of England" club, we have been paupers for almost the entirety of the PL era.....thanks Bill.

We did have a splurge but it wasn't spectacular, far from it.

 

[davids]

It’s the huge sponsorship deals which distort FFP. It’s not even based on success any more, when was the last time Spurs won anything? But the media talk about Spurs a lot and so a company is happy to give them 10s of millions to put their name on their shirt. Meanwhile if you’re Leicester who actually won two pots recently, the best you can get on the open market will be some dodgy gambling company so you’re forced to try and take money from your owners through the back door, as we tried to do, as Newcastle will try to do. There’s no other way to bridge the gap.

United could have 10 years of utter failure yet they’ll still get bigger sponsor deals than any team outside the top 6 no matter what they do. This allows them to spend what they want whilst the rest are forced into selling their best players.

Thank god for financial regs though, saving clubs from themselves, who knows where Leicester would be now if their owners had been able to buy players last season.

Sponsorship deals are linked to shirt sales. Kids are wearing United shirts worldwide. I might spot an Everton shirt once a year.

 

[Ragnar]

Absolutely. We did however spend about half a billion in 4 years which was a lot more even then. Shame we spent it so badly.

Lukaku 80m
Stones 50m
Barkley 20m
Richarlison 50m
Gordon 40m
Kean 30m
Deulofeu 12m
Klassen 12m
Gueye 30m
Vlasic 12m
Lookman 20m
Onyekuru 12m
Digne 25m

That half a billion spent has brought back in over 300m. Which means we have spent around the same amount inn 4/5 seasons as what these clubs have spent this summer alone.

 

[kewns]

And what?. This is the bit I don’t understand!. It’s a sport….. a so called competitive sport, why does it matter what a club generates. Why can’t a billionaire buy Luton tomorrow and spend 2 billion on players if he wants. It’s all rigged for the broadcasters to make the most money from keeping the big clubs at the top for viewership numbers.

It was brought in by ueffa as a way to stop psg/country from buying everything! I somewhat agree with it! However it’s impossible to implement fairly because clubs like Utd are already vastly established in terms of revenues! But even the biggest clubs still have to sell!
Imagine it was like the old times Newcastle could drop billions like it was nothing!

 

[davids]

And what?. This is the bit I don’t understand!. It’s a sport….. a so called competitive sport, why does it matter what a club generates. Why can’t a billionaire buy Luton tomorrow and spend 2 billion on players if he wants. It’s all rigged for the broadcasters to make the most money from keeping the big clubs at the top for viewership numbers.

Yes. And in the world we are nomarks.