Summer transfer window 2023

[Bluewolf]

Same we all cant do this again this season last two have been a disgrace

Ah, mate my hair can't take it. I had jet black hair two seasons ago, I look like I've been headbutting bags of flour now

 

[davids]

I do get the desire for someone that may excite over the next 5 years etc, but the type of manager we’d all ideally like at the club would get massacred every week with the players we have and the players we can afford.

Bielsa it is then.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

I do get the desire for someone that may excite over the next 5 years etc, but the type of manager we’d all ideally like at the club would get massacred every week with the players we have and the players we can afford.

They don't have to be particularly exciting. Thomas Frank has done a good job at Brentford but plays very direct, aggressive football.

But isn't fundamentally opposed to giving youth a try and isn't ultra-defensive either. I know he is helped by a good recruitment system, but even so.

There are plenty of good managers out there but more of the same = unsurprisingly, more of the same. How do we ever hope to improve without fundamentally changing the way we are run and that includes the managers we choose.

 

[Blue peter]

I'm an Evertonian which means I've given the benefit of the doubt to, amongst others, Gordon Lee, Mike Walker and Frank Lampard. Now it's Sean Dyche's turn. Just because I'm loyal it doesn't mean I have to be deluded

I agree. There are two ways of thinking about everything - heart and head. My heart wants him to do well and I will support him because he is Everton manager. My head? Well, the jury is out, not least because of his previous with Burnley and how he had them play but also because of his reliance on certain individuals and his in game management. I am just not sure at this stage and I am reserving judgement. I feel for him a little as no one should expect to go from managing Burnley to managing Everton and still only have a similar transfer budget.

 

[davids]

Joyce saying we value Simms at £7-10m and that Coventry and Swansea are interested. We know Blackburn and Sunderland are too.

So I guess it may be a case of who gives something in values for Piroe, Wharton, Gyokeres or Clarke that may see it done.

No club says they value a player at £7-10 million. They start at £10 million plus...oh wait.

 

[Bluewolf]

And the relevance to what we are discussing with this point is?

It wasn't like he was smashing the league Burnley were just the best of a bad bunch.

Do you think we should get martinez back? He had that one good season with us didnt he?

 

[Thomasc]

One season amongst many terrible ones. Also a season where other teams really underperformed.

Look, you rate him, I get it. I don't and so far he has pretty much done all the things that worried me about him, so I have nothing to suggest otherwise moving forwards. Me personally, I will need to see evidence of development as a manager. From what you have said, it seems you would be happy with more of the same from him. That's your call.

Where have I said I rate him? Where have I said I’d be happy with “more of the same?”

The truth is, I believe that he deserves a chance based on the fact that he took over a dreadful team, nailed on for the drop, is a manager who is tainted by many because he’s only managed Burnley and for these reasons I’m interested in seeing what he can do at a bigger club, with the chance to build something like Moyes did when he came in. Main difference being he has vastly more experience than Moyes had when he took over.

It’s like you’ve forgotten how bad we were when he came in. Let’s see him with a couple of transfer windows behind him and maybe then judge whether he’s worthy of managing the once mighty Everton

 

[sandybrownsbighead]

I do get the desire for someone that may excite over the next 5 years etc, but the type of manager we’d all ideally like at the club would get massacred every week with the players we have and the players we can afford.

I get that too. But I worry that having a sort of 'interim' manager till we are good enough for someone better means that we will never be good enough for someone better. It should go without saying...but for some reason it doesn't....that I want Dyche to do brilliantly next season and for ever after. We're allowed doubts, though

 

[davek]

Where have I said I rate him? Where have I said I’d be happy with “more of the same?”

The truth is, I believe that he deserves a chance based on the fact that he took over a dreadful team, nailed on for the drop, is a manager who is tainted by many because he’s only managed Burnley and for these reasons I’m interested in seeing what he can do at a bigger club, with the chance to build something like Moyes did when he came in. Main difference being he has vastly more experience than Moyes had when he took over.

It’s like you’ve forgotten his bad we were when he came in. Let’s see him with a couple of transfer windows behind him and maybe then judge whether he’s worthy of managing the once mighty Everton

Moyes has the assurance when he came in he could spend what we brought in through sales.

Will Dyche have that?

 

[Zatara]

Joyce saying we value Simms at £7-10m and that Coventry and Swansea are interested. We know Blackburn and Sunderland are too.

So I guess it may be a case of who gives something in values for Piroe, Wharton, Gyokeres or Clarke that may see it done.

I like Jota but this is a big, big overpayment, if they are sniffing around Gray we need to be looking for 20m plus from them using this as a guide. Jota is decent but in truth Gray would also run rings round them in Scotland.

A Simms + Gray sale should be able to land a good quality centre forward at the numbers touted.

Not a chance.

Feyenoord, PSV and Ajax teams would finish above Everton and a handful of others.

To disagree with that is just flat out stupid.

 

[mikel_88]

Ah, mate my hair can't take it. I had jet black hair two seasons ago, I look like I've been headbutting bags of flour now

still feel like this untill i see some players come in

 

[Goat]

A Simms + Gray sale should be able to land a good quality centre forward at the numbers touted.




Feyenoord, PSV and Ajax teams would finish above Everton and a handful of others.

To disagree with that is just flat out stupid.

Nope

 

[Zatara]

Nope

Are you joking, wumming, drunk or actually serious?

 

[Thomasc]

Moyes has the assurance when he came in he could spend what we brought in through sales.

Will Dyche have that?

I guess we will see Dave.

I believe Dyche is far superior to what Moyes was when he first took over, mainly due to the PL experience he already has. So I believe he has an advantage in man management, tactical ability and all round managerial experience.

 

[Bluewolf]

Bit of a difference in clubs, Emery given a large transfer kitty. Dyche's interview probably went along the lines of being asked if he felt he could keep us in the Prem with next to nothing to spend until at least BM was up and running. At the time who else would have taken the poison chalice?

Not really they've spent €30m and sold €12m since he's came in. Think if dyche had of came in when emery did we would of spent around that much.

Obviously villa can spend more tyen us but they havent