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The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%
  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%
  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%
  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%

  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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Ukip attracts racists, but I don't believe the party itself is racist.

I'm not voting ukip but I like that they say things as it is. The Muslim gang rapes certainly would have been stopped in Rochdale.

They don't say things as it is, they grossly exaggerate them.

It would be dangerous for us to concentrate on a certain case in which Pakistani men were guilty of rape in Rochdale and assume that this would be a good reason to implement a UKIP endorsed 'Australian style points system'. This wouldn't have stopped other certain rape cases, such as Saville or Gary Glitter, would it? Rape and other horrific things would still happen with or without immigration.
 
They don't say things as it is, they grossly exaggerate them.

It would be dangerous for us to concentrate on a certain case in which Pakistani men were guilty of rape in Rochdale and assume that this would be a good reason to implement a UKIP endorsed 'Australian style points system'. This wouldn't have stopped other certain rape cases, such as Saville or Gary Glitter, would it? Rape and other horrific things would still happen with or without immigration.

But the reason those rapes weren't stopped was because of political correctness. I wasn't saying don't let them come here the first place although the rape statistics from Asian men is very alarming. I think it's 28% Asian men.
 

But the reason those rapes weren't stopped was because of political correctness. I wasn't saying don't let them come here the first place although the rape statistics from Asian men is very alarming. I think it's 28% Asian men.

Those rapes happened for a number of reasons, the ineptness of the Police and children's services being the main ones.

You're suggesting that we are too politically correct to challenge Asian men but not politically correct enough to intervene in the rape of children?
 
Those rapes happened for a number of reasons, the ineptness of the Police and children's services being the main ones.

You're suggesting that we are too politically correct to challenge Asian men but not politically correct enough to intervene in the rape of children?

Mate the reason the police and children services were inept was because they were scared of being called racist.
 
UKIP have fully costed their manifesto. Had it independently verified too. Perhaps not half as amateurish as some would have you believe.

The highlighted section shows how UKIP have just humiliated both Labour and the Conservatives. I hate UKIP, but i am incredibly impressed with the way they have supplied detail and specifics to the headlines.

It shows what a complete and utter farce the Labour and Conservative manifesto's currently are.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8f22eb00-e37f-11e4-aa97-00144feab7de.html#ixzz3XTpgO6rc

“I’m a gregarious cove,” Nigel Farage said during the presentation of his party’s manifesto, while explaining the difference between occasional conversations (which he has had) and formal negotiations (which he has not) about post-election deals.

The room was filled with gregarious coves. This occasion brought out members of the UK Independence party’s gregarious wing: the Rotarians, the masons, the 19th-hole bores, mostly wearing suits, the Ukip striped tie and a paunch. It was like a midsummer morning in the Lord’s pavilion.

There was also the occasional check waistcoat, and a man called Herbert who wore a pair of linked LED screens as badges on each lapel: the sort that normally flash up train information. “Next stop: Barking,” that kind of thing.

Which wouldn’t have been far wrong geographically. The launch was held in a hotel in Thurrock, the Essex constituency that might now rank ahead of Mr Farage’s target of Thanet South as Ukip’s most likely gain.

Thurrock may be seen as HQ of Ukip’s less gregarious wing, with a candidate wary of scrutiny, where racial issues may not be handled with the sanitised care displayed in the manifesto.

And Believe in Britain is certainly a carefully put-together document. Unlike the 2010 manifesto, which he famously disowned, the leader likes it. And it was explained to us at length by Suzanne Evans, its chief author, who gave us a kind of PowerPoint demonstration, though without the PowerPoint or much power or point.

Ms Evans appeared in what looked like a long black coat to address us in a manner she might use to play Margaret Thatcher in a village panto: she was condescending and precise, with a thin smile, which grew wider when she thought she had said something clever.

The manifesto itself is very precise. “We will cut fuel bills by an average of £197,” she announced. Not £196, not £198 — £197. Ukip will train 800 advisers to help the clients of 800 food banks (from the gregarious wing that one, I think). And a Farage government will build a military hospital with 500 beds and room for 150 relatives or friends. Not 149 or 151. The party have probably already chosen the curtain colour.

It is true that Ukip is anxious to raise defence spending to pre-2010 peaks. But 500 beds suggests they are preparing for a pretty big conflict. Who with? Maybe Luxembourg. “The British government has insulted the most famous of all Luxembourgers, Jean-Claude Juncker. You must pay, Farage. This means war!”

Now in contrast to some of the airy-fairy “aw, c’mon-doncha-trust-us?” approach to promises adopted by the Conservatives, Ukip hired a think-tank, the Centre for Economics and Business Research, to assess the manifesto costings. Time and again the centre concluded the figures were “reasonable” or even “cautious and reasonable”.

The idea that European leaders might take a dim view of a Ukip-led EU exit does not seem to have occurred to the party. Not just because it does not cost the effect of a 500-wounded war with Luxembourg, but because it does not consider that there might be any unforeseen consequences whatever. The analysis document gets very waffly when it gets near this subject.

It all sounded unarguable, though, and the leader was a bit upstaged. But he did manage to entrap a reporter who complained that the only black face in the manifesto was in the section devoted to overseas aid, which Mr Farage so hates. And she appeared to be crying, while being hugged by a Ukip MEP.

After the question half a dozen South Asians wearing Ukip badges jumped up and began grinning for the cameras. Useful idiots, as the saying goes.
 

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