The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[roydo]

doesn't mean those savings should not be analysed and the effects they had shouldn't be either, given that you imply it is a small figure, then it shouldn't be too hard to take it from a sector where it doesn't cause death

Oh I agree. Take your pick.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/mar/21/budget-2014-tax-spending-visualised

 

[Walken]

Oh I agree. Take your pick.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/mar/21/budget-2014-tax-spending-visualised

i'm going to pick defense, spin that wheel!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

i'm going to pick defense, spin that wheel!

Still £50bn in the red. What else is there?

 

[roydo]

i'm going to pick defense, spin that wheel!

It is an interesting graphic isnt it? I liked the £118 Billion of "Other" cheese slice of income from taxes ffs!

 

[Walken]

It is an interesting graphic isnt it? I liked the £118 Billion of "Other" cheese slice of income from taxes ffs!

its a bit everton isn't it, other operating costs

 

[roydo]

its a bit everton isn't it, other operating costs

Haha! £51 Billion or something wasnt it!

 

[The Esk]

But in context, it just over 4% of last years total government expenditure. 4%.

Putting aside any agendas, is it that hard for any government to find 4% of savings in a budget of £740 billion?

I don't have the figures to hand but because health, education and overseas development budgets are ringfenced then the cuts elsewhere are significantly higher, plus they are over and above cuts already in place/planned.

Will post more later in a non partisan way if possible

 

[Groucho]

With freedom comes responsibility though surely? Having children is arguably the most important thing you'll ever do. It shouldn't really need saying that a bit of thought goes into how you'll raise the child before creating it, and yet over half of pregnancies are unplanned.

I've no doubt that my views are moulded by my circumstances, and you know the proof required before you can adopt a child in terms of your income, your relationship, your home etc.

So many problems stem from giving a child a poor upbringing that I do wonder if we haven't gotten things rather wrong here (in an albeit well-intentioned way).

Genuinely laughed out load at this and i know you didn't intent it to be funny. Jesus christ lol

My point was that these hypothetical rules about how many children people can have would be brought about due to a minority of irresponsible parents - far more responsible people get "punished" due to the irresponsible few, who wouldn't care anyway.

I would say that, if you are a law abiding citizen, that a state set child limit would infringe human rights. A lot of baby girls in China are neglected severely and often dumped as a result of this - couples all want a boy, and that can't happen.

People need more real-world education about family planning perhaps, but artificially limiting the number of kids per couple is wrong in my view.

 

[Jib in lad]

The mind boggles.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ns-drafted-us-conservatives-election-campaign

 

[roydo]

I don't have the figures to hand but because health, education and overseas development budgets are ringfenced then the cuts elsewhere are significantly higher, plus they are over and above cuts already in place/planned.

Will post more later in a non partisan way if possible

Oh I agree. Take your pick.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/mar/21/budget-2014-tax-spending-visualised

An ace graphic mate.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

My point was that these hypothetical rules about how many children people can have would be brought about due to a minority of irresponsible parents - far more responsible people get "punished" due to the irresponsible few, who wouldn't care anyway.

I would say that, if you are a law abiding citizen, that a state set child limit would infringe human rights. A lot of baby girls in China are neglected severely and often dumped as a result of this - couples all want a boy, and that can't happen.

People need more real-world education about family planning perhaps, but artificially limiting the number of kids per couple is wrong in my view.

Oh for sure, I think any state set limit would be absurd, both from a moral and practical perspective. It just seems a daily occurrence that the other half comes home with stories of sadness. The latest was a 1 year old that had been so over-fed they were over 3 stone and was practically being fed to death.

No idea what the answer is really.

 

[daylightrobber]

Oh for sure, I think any state set limit would be absurd, both from a moral and practical perspective. It just seems a daily occurrence that the other half comes home with stories of sadness. The latest was a 1 year old that had been so over-fed they were over 3 stone and was practically being fed to death.

No idea what the answer is really.

'Bad parenting' is generally due to a lack of education or support. However parents are often forced into making bad decisions because their options are limited.

 

[glorydaze]

Oh for sure, I think any state set limit would be absurd, both from a moral and practical perspective. It just seems a daily occurrence that the other half comes home with stories of sadness. The latest was a 1 year old that had been so over-fed they were over 3 stone and was practically being fed to death.

No idea what the answer is really.

Education, problem is some don't want to learn.

 

[roydo]

'Bad parenting' is generally due to a lack of education or support. However parents are often forced into making bad decisions because their options are limited.

Or they are crap parents.

 

[daylightrobber]

Or they are crap parents.

I think deep down every parent wants what's best for their kids. Its no doubt harder for some than others.