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The Ashes 2023

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Rita_Poon said:
As well as authors of their own downfall, with each toss won, batting not long enough, then batting to long, then chancing the weather, there's no mean streak in them, its a nasty mentality side - which is why so much has been made of entertaining england, saving test cricket, and words in the lords chamber.

Only one I saw or heard* get some attitude on him was Broad after the carey thing. Get on the wind up and don't relent. It's a home ashes for fudges sake, get into these apparently reformed cheats, entertain, drag them through the mud, this is what this event is for, it's not the two bob dance down the local ritzy!
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Thats a gigantic load of tosh I'm afraid.

Getting blamed for winning the toss? oz would bat first anyways

If they hadn't declared the first test would have been drawn, they have stated they have no interest in draws and rightly so, risk the defeat by going for the win and not concerning yourself with what boycott or rita poon might say.

Batting too long? a massive massive hindsight critique and a daft one at that, oz were 61 behind with 5 wickets, batting for a shorter time before Jonnys explosion would be rank stupidity.

Chancing the weather???? How? do you want them to beat the best side in the world in 3 days? They did everything possible in that match.

They have declared the want to entertain and play in the right way, sport is an entertainment industry. You want them to play in a boring manner and be bellends about it? that might please you and simon jordan but the likes of me and Kumar Sangakarra are quite happy with Baz and Ben.

Stokes should have stuck with NZ, England doesn't deserve him and Baz
 
Walken said:
Thats a gigantic load of tosh I'm afraid.

Getting blamed for winning the toss? oz would bat first anyways

If they hadn't declared the first test would have been drawn, they have stated they have no interest in draws and rightly so, risk the defeat by going for the win and not concerning yourself with what boycott or rita poon might say.

Batting too long? a massive massive hindsight critique and a daft one at that, oz were 61 behind with 5 wickets, batting for a shorter time before Jonnys explosion would be rank stupidity.

Chancing the weather???? How? do you want them to beat the best side in the world in 3 days? They did everything possible in that match.

They have declared the want to entertain and play in the right way, sport is an entertainment industry. You want them to play in a boring manner and be bellends about it? that might please you and simon jordan but the likes of me and Kumar Sangakarra are quite happy with Baz and Ben.

Stokes should have stuck with NZ, England doesn't deserve him and Baz
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They blew it even though they got the rub of the green/wicket/luck...

My point re batting time was, batted to little (alleged) then batted to long (alleged).

Weather? They had the forecast for OT like everyone else.

Sport rarely remembers how well you've played the game, Cooper floored Ali, Ali won. Finito!

The side is to nice. Want to be everyones pal, where's the peterson snide? wheres that snark that'll get in some faces? Football, cricket, rugby, someone has to carry the fight, better if its all of them. Get out there and show you care!

We can all be pals in the bar afterwards when the winnings been done.

(Me and 'simon jordan', how very dare ye!)
 
Rita_Poon said:
They blew it even though they got the rub of the green/wicket/luck...

My point re batting time was, batted to little (alleged) then batted to long (alleged).

Weather? They had the forecast for OT like everyone else.

Sport rarely remembers how well you've played the game, Cooper floored Ali, Ali won. Finito!

The side is to nice. Want to be everyones pal, where's the peterson snide? wheres that snark that'll get in some faces? Football, cricket, rugby, someone has to carry the fight, better if its all of them. Get out there and show you care!

We can all be pals in the bar afterwards when the winnings been done.

(Me and 'simon jordan', how very dare ye!)
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I don't see them having the forecast as a valid criticism, they moved the game forward as quickly as they could, brilliantly in fact, anything other than praise for their performance at old trafford is mental. If you can tell me how many times the current world number 1 has been beaten in 3 days I'd be very interested to know.

As for the rest Mr Jordan, England are currently T20 and ODI world champions, they play the same way and adopt the same ethos. The idea this England team don't want to win enough is pretty silly. If anything they want to win more than other sides, they put the draw out of their minds and risk defeat because they want to win.
 
Walken said:
I don't see them having the forecast as a valid criticism, they moved the game forward as quickly as they could, brilliantly in fact, anything other than praise for their performance at old trafford is mental. If you can tell me how many times the current world number 1 has been beaten in 3 days I'd be very interested to know.

As for the rest Mr Jordan, England are currently T20 and ODI world champions, they play the same way and adopt the same ethos. The idea this England team don't want to win enough is pretty silly. If anything they want to win more than other sides, they put the draw out of their minds and risk defeat because they want to win.
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If you want to beat them, join them. Nice guys finish last. I want blood and guts!
 

Hinchcliffe's Corner said:
That's not true though if you look at how a country like New Zealand has performed in the last 10 years.
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A couple of generational talents, see the windies in the 80's. Sustained snark, the preparedness to cut throats, the dream. Take it to the aus and crush them and turn their bones into flour.
 

Walken said:
Me and Mr White are pals now, you must be destroyed
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