The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[magicjuan]

No, the actual person involved, but I can't quote the name, it was a confidence. In any case the story is common knowledge now. Somewhere in the dark recesses of my memory I have the name also, of the City director involved, and I'm quite prepared to quote that name...I'll ring a contact(!) for a reminder. Magic, you should remember that this is basically a re run of some of my comments on Blue K a while back.

As with the Chinese consortium and the Jain group, my contact was , erm, me. I was there when they met. But also common knowledge is that they were looking at us, a fair way down the line, when the city thing popped up. Too much dithering on our part...

 

[Chang Elephant]

It's my belief that this Board is immune to "fan pressure", (i) because they have complete control of the club and (ii) they know that the vast majority of Blues will carry on supporting the club regardless of the Board and view protesters as disruptive.

That's a bleak scenario as we're falling behind other clubs financially every year, and after financially, performance on the pitch inevitably follows sooner or later. Then again I'd rather the club hit the buffers slowly at Goodison than quickly in the depths of Kirkby so it's not all bad.

 

[The Esk]

That's a bleak scenario as we're falling behind other clubs financially every year, and after financially, performance on the pitch inevitably follows sooner or later. Then again I'd rather the club hit the buffers slowly at Goodison than quickly in the depths of Kirkby so it's not all bad.

Fair post mate, the business model for years has been "to punch above our weight".

Well how about increasing our "weight" so we can compete truly at the highest level..

 

[Chang Elephant]

Well how about increasing our "weight" so we can compete truly at the highest level..

Yeah, agreed but you know what I'm thinking is the major obtstacle to that.....

 

[edge]

No, the actual person involved, but I can't quote the name, it was a confidence. In any case the story is common knowledge now. Somewhere in the dark recesses of my memory I have the name also, of the City director involved, and I'm quite prepared to quote that name...I'll ring a contact(!) for a reminder. Magic, you should remember that this is basically a re run of some of my comments on Blue K a while back.

cant recall the full story steve , but a mate of mine was involved in a building contract for them around that time, as you say there wasnt any money coming forward to pay anything, few months of nothing before funds came back on line.

 

[MickA]

'an aquaintance'? The Peoples Forum? Thats a bit like third hand information isn't it, or Chinese(!) whispers, even. The confirmation of direct evidence for those with an agenda. 'a friend of a friend of a friend' Ha Ha !!
City were in a mess Siniwatra could not get funds together to keep his promises...in fact he never ever paid any money to City to buy the club...his assets/money was then frozen. Another director paid all the salaries for at least two months. Siniwatra approached the sheiks, who were friends /acquaintances/business colleagues of his, because they were looking for a Premier League club with potential both as a club, and with a surrounding area with development possibilities. Deal was then done very quickly, because Siniwatra and City needed it done quickly. Source..directly to me by a media person closely connected with City hierarch at a charity event.

And yet we can say exactly the same about accounts were for sale. In fact the only 'on record' statement officially by EFC came from the CEO in the Kirkby inquiry who said were not for sale.

Steve your smoke and mirrors approach is frankly tiresome.

 

[1966efc]

Perhaps it is not surprising given the importance that history has to Evertonians, but the key problem for me in all of this is that the focus of protesting fans is almost entirely on the past. There's little or no consideration to the future other than the removal of the current owners. However even that seems like little more than a vague hope as there is no evidence of a worthwhile strategy to create change.

Too much emphasis on a 'history' which is, in my view, too heavily marbled with mythology.

 

[Groucho]

Too much emphasis on a 'history' which is, in my view, too heavily marbled with mythology.

We have a magnificent history, and one which most other clubs are envious of - however, we need to look to the future, and it's been a while since we created any more history for future generations to look back on, which is getting to be tragic.

I agree with @the esk though, the impression I get of protests against the board was:

"What do we want - to get rid of the board"

"When do we want it - now"

"What then - we don't know"


To me, that's as flawed a business model as the one they want to replace. Perhaps I'm a bit of an odd one out in this, as I don't have extreme feelings for or against the board, but I do think that we shouldn't stand still and not invest/do nothing and hope year on year that we get by.

I also think we should keep an eye on the past because it's extremely important to us, but we should not live in it. If the other lot can redevelop our old ground in a heavily residential area, then why can't we redevelop our current ground? That way we could have a new ground and remain at our historical site.

I'm being naive again, aren't I?

 

[Bluesnapper]

Have you ever seen Everton pick up the English title? I have thankfully on a few occasions.

Because if you havent then I fear you will never see it.

This board hasnt setup the club to compete at the top, this board hasnt started to setup the club to compete at the top and by the time this board calls it a day we may never get back up to compete at the top.

 

[1966efc]

We have a magnificent history, and one which most other clubs are envious of - however, we need to look to the future, and it's been a while since we created any more history for future generations to look back on, which is getting to be tragic.

I agree with @the esk though, the impression I get of protests against the board was:

"What do we want - to get rid of the board"

"When do we want it - now"

"What then - we don't know"


To me, that's as flawed a business model as the one they want to replace. Perhaps I'm a bit of an odd one out in this, as I don't have extreme feelings for or against the board, but I do think that we shouldn't stand still and not invest/do nothing and hope year on year that we get by.

I also think we should keep an eye on the past because it's extremely important to us, but we should not live in it. If the other lot can redevelop our old ground in a heavily residential area, then why can't we redevelop our current ground? That way we could have a new ground and remain at our historical site.

I'm being naive again, aren't I?

Don't think you're being naive at all. Respect the past, enjoy the present, look to the future.

My difficulty with Everton / ians is that it's tricky respecting the past if an understanding of it is 30% factual and 70% sniffing at fact from a sentimental distance.

 

[Groucho]

Don't think you're being naive at all. Respect the past, enjoy the present, look to the future.

My difficulty with Everton / ians is that it's tricky respecting the past if an understanding of it is 30% factual and 70% sniffing at fact from a sentimental distance.

Genuinely intrigued by this mate - how do you mean?

 

[paultheblue]

My immediate concern is in the present circumstances who is there to make the big decisions over transfers? Whether you are pro Kenwright or anti Kenwright he is obviously not well so someone else needs to take over the reigns.
That leaves Woods, Earl(PG) and Elstone,Elstone is just a puppet who can not make the big decisions on his own,Earl or Green have no interest in the club other than making a massive profit on there investment.If Green is actually the real owner of the shares I think we are in big trouble as the man is just an asset stripper who has history of going into companies bleeding them dry then closing them down.
That only leaves Woods who though being an Evertonian has showed no real interest in taking a more prominent roll.
The argument that better the devil you know rather than take on new owners doesnt really stack up as Im afraid we already have the worst type of owners that many people fear could take over.
I am not a Kenwright fan but god forbid anything happens to him I fear the future without him as it stands is a lot more worrying if the others are in control.

 

[Bluesnapper]

I have said that more than once on here, we are rudderless.

 

[Blue Cheese]

I always take a golden shower in this thread as you lot are just pi55ing in the wind.

 

[By god I'm blue]

All that we actually know, is that we are run by people who do not know how to take the club forward financially and don't want to sell and see if somebody else can do it.

Failed stadium moves, millions wasted, lies, deceit and covert operations to fool the fan base yet people still make excuses for them.