The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[paultheblue]

I have said that more than once on here, we are rudderless.

As supporters there is very little we can do about it ,I have attended BU meetings (though I am not a member) and though well intentioned I didnt come away thinking they had much to offer.
Until the mass of supporters really wake up to the state of the club nothing will change, the majority of our support now have never seen Everton win a trophy and there loyalty has to be admired but I thing the days of life long supporters are in decline, modern supporters ( unless blues by family connections) tend to drift into football in there early teens and have drifted away by there late 20s.
I am not knocking todays supporters it is far more difficult to attend football these days as the costs of admission and travel costs mean they have to pick and choose there matches as it can be hard to justify the cost of a ticket if you have a young family to feed.
To sum up I am very lucky to have seen many great Everton teams and being greedy would love to see one more great Everton team before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

 

[Bluesnapper]

BU dont have members as such.

 

[maccavennie]

Have you ever seen Everton pick up the English title? I have thankfully on a few occasions.

Because if you havent then I fear you will never see it.

This board hasnt setup the club to compete at the top, this board hasnt started to setup the club to compete at the top and by the time this board calls it a day we may never get back up to compete at the top.

With all due respect though mate we haven't been competing at the top since the late 80's, this isn't something that's only occurred under Kenwrights stewardship. The premier league era began and we stood still, only once under Royle did we look like we may get back to where we should be.

A lot of folk say fans don't care anymore or aren't willing to do anything about the current situation. My thought has always been how did it get to this? When the titles dried up why didn't that generation of fans stand up and do something about it and say this isn't acceptable? When the plans for the initial park end were drawn why didn't fans protest and say "hang on, that ain't big enough and there should be corporate boxes included" etc

Those questions aren't directed at you personally either mate, they are just general thoughts of mine I've always had and I think ( and as a 36 year old man who has barely any recollection of us winning our last title ) that there's a couple of generations of us who should be embarrassed of ourselves that we have let our standards slip to what it is now which is the "punching above our weight" syndrome. Its certainly not good enough for my kids growing up as Evertonians.

The current board are certainly part of the problem but they certainly aren't 100% at fault for where we currently are as a club.

Anyways when is that next meeting, is it the 11th? I wouldn't mind coming to one work permitting because I think it is important to listen to what fan groups have to say and see if we can all get in the same page and make changes for the better and for the good of the club

 

[Bluesnapper]

The current board are certainly part of the problem but they certainly aren't 100% at fault for where we currently are as a club.

Then who is?

They have [supposedly] a strategy. They make [supposedly] concious decisions.

 

[Garymc2412]

After the last title in 87 Colin Harvey took over and was sacked a few years later.i think thru fan pressure because we finished fourth in the league,he also took us to a cup final.
The fans also hated Johnson and forced him out,so maybe this fan apathy you mentioned actually did start when kenwright took over in the late 90,s.

 

[Bluesnapper]

With all due respect though mate we haven't been competing at the top since the late 80's, this isn't something that's only occurred under Kenwrights stewardship. The premier league era began and we stood still, only once under Royle did we look like we may get back to where we should be.

A lot of folk say fans don't care anymore or aren't willing to do anything about the current situation. My thought has always been how did it get to this? When the titles dried up why didn't that generation of fans stand up and do something about it and say this isn't acceptable?

They do though didnt they. They blamed Johnson and he took the lot.

One constant from the 80s is that Kenwright has been on the board throughout even in the Johnson days.

 

[Bluesnapper]

Anyways when is that next meeting, is it the 11th? I wouldn't mind coming to one work permitting because I think it is important to listen to what fan groups have to say and see if we can all get in the same page and make changes for the better and for the good of the club

Yes its on 11 July at the Casa.

They may even say what is happening in the background with other things that the BU are involved with such as the meetings recently with the Echo and the Police/club.

 

[Neiler]

I dont even know why the BU continue to try a reboot - seem like they go away for a year or so then have an odd meeting down the boozer get all geed up and go away again and try to relaunch.

What the deal with with ongoing fan protest, continuous pressure, measures strategy, methods etc. If you went to a game you wouldnt even know the BU existed.

Lets be honest here, its a collection of disgruntled supports down the pub and a dog with a website, who leaked an email, got a meeting with Bill and shadily leaked them.

Pity a co-ordinated group with strategy and the ability to communicate openly with the club is badly needed - but this group is filing a void they shouldnt. And there behaviour up until this point means they will be forever disenfranchised from the more value orientated Evertonians. Myself included.

 

[Chang Elephant]

there behaviour up until this point means they will be forever disenfranchised from the more value orientated Evertonians. Myself included.

Never been to a BU meeting/march but intrigued by the vitriol here ?

 

[paultheblue]

I dont even know why the BU continue to try a reboot - seem like they go away for a year or so then have an odd meeting down the boozer get all geed up and go away again and try to relaunch.

What the deal with with ongoing fan protest, continuous pressure, measures strategy, methods etc. If you went to a game you wouldnt even know the BU existed.

Lets be honest here, its a collection of disgruntled supports down the pub and a dog with a website, who leaked an email, got a meeting with Bill and shadily leaked them.

Pity a co-ordinated group with strategy and the ability to communicate openly with the club is badly needed - but this group is filing a void they shouldnt. And there behaviour up until this point means they will be forever disenfranchised from the more value orientated Evertonians. Myself included.

I am sure the blue union would be only to happy stand down if a co-ordinated group led by yourself was to step forward and lead them into the promised land.
You can slate the BU all you want but the fact is they are a group of supporters with know hidden agenda who just want to see the club competing with the best, they get very little thanks from fellow supporters just criticism.
They are trying to do something what are you doing?

 

[Jags]

Can we change the poll so I can see before voting, or have a cheese on toast option? I haven't the foggiest what this all means tbh, I just want Everton to play some boss togger, but I will be interested as to what others think.

 

[Bluesnapper]

I dont even know why the BU continue to try a reboot - seem like they go away for a year or so then have an odd meeting down the boozer get all geed up and go away again and try to relaunch.

They dont go away, as I said earlier they are involved with other supporters groups and attend meetings etc that are even attended by the club.

 

[Bluesnapper]

I am sure the blue union would be only to happy stand down if a co-ordinated group led by yourself was to step forward and lead them into the promised land.
You can slate the BU all you want but the fact is they are a group of supporters with know hidden agenda who just want to see the club competing with the best, they get very little thanks from fellow supporters just criticism.
They are trying to do something what are you doing?

Couldnt have put it better myself.

 

[maccavennie]

They do though didnt they. They blamed Johnson and he took the lot.

One constant from the 80s is that Kenwright has been on the board throughout even in the Johnson days.

Johnson got the hook and rightly so, what was that, late 90's? So that was nearly 10 years of absolute tripe ( but with a glorious fa cup win in the middle ) until it all finally came to a head.

Kenwright has been on the board all that time and of course as chairman now he's responsible because he's at the top of the tree. But let's be honest, there isn't 40 odd thousand Everton fans who go the game currently logged in on fan forums thinking we need to sack the board. Is that due to apathy? Maybe it is.

In my opinion if the board are going to get ousted its going to take one of the following -

A couple of major player sales in a time when money is practically swimming about and we should be able to commit to purchasing big name players without the need to flog anyone.

Another stadium failure ( which I think is the most likely )

Only when the fans feel like their backs are against the wall and they are being short changed is when we've reacted with any intent.

 

[maccavennie]

Then who is?

They have [supposedly] a strategy. They make [supposedly] concious decisions.

As mentioned in my original post mate, we can start from just before the premier league era to see when our expectations were lowered by those in charge. From title winners to nearly being relegated 6-7 years later, a demise that the board not once ever tried to halt until the appointment of Royle who got us close to what is acceptable and what should be the norm and that is either competing or winning trophies.