The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[AndyC]

Another stadium failure ( which I think is the most likely ).

Methinks with WHP having gone quiet and seemingly off the radar, that it's a non-starter.

So maybe it's back to the drawing board and maybe the Edge Lane / old Littlewoods hq area ?

 

[maccavennie]

Methinks with WHP having gone quiet and seemingly off the radar, that it's a non-starter.

So maybe it's back to the drawing board and maybe the Edge Lane / old Littlewoods hq area ?

I think the silence is deafening isn't it mate. I'm not sure as a fan base we would have the stomach for another process of "we've found a great location, we are doing a process of checking it out, erm we are skint".

 

[AndyC]

I think the silence is deafening isn't it mate. I'm not sure as a fan base we would have the stomach for another process of "we've found a great location, we are doing a process of checking it out, erm we are skint".

If I had to put money on it I would say WHP is as dead as the Dodo.

The problem for me is all about how Everton are looking to fund a new stadium.
If we're asking for or depending upon public money i.e. the council part/fully funding it, then it simply will not happen. If the council did assist, they would likely have to agree to a similar value assistance package to the RS in some form and for that reason alone, they cannot assist Everton other than potentially helping in land acquisition.

The club needs to develop/find a robust finance package of its own and then, I suspect, the land acquisition will be a much, much easier deal to negotiate.

It's all down to money and our apparent lack of it or lack of ability or willingness to invest on behalf of the current board.

Sadly, that leads us back to the tricky subject of the club being sold, the supposed asking price, the nature of the mythical oligarch we would need and exactly how much said oligarch will be willing to commit for very little, if any, return over probably at least ten or more years... in the same way Abramovich has bankrolled Chelsea.

 

[maccavennie]

If I had to put money on it I would say WHP is as dead as the Dodo.

The problem for me is all about how Everton are looking to fund a new stadium.
If we're asking for or depending upon public money i.e. the council part/fully funding it, then it simply will not happen. If the council did assist, they would likely have to agree to a similar value assistance package to the RS in some form and for that reason alone, they cannot assist Everton other than potentially helping in land acquisition.

The club needs to develop/find a robust finance package of its own and then, I suspect, the land acquisition will be a much, much easier deal to negotiate.

It's all down to money and our apparent lack of it or lack of ability or willingness to invest on behalf of the current board.

Sadly, that leads us back to the tricky subject of the club being sold, the supposed asking price, the nature of the mythical oligarch we would need and exactly how much said oligarch will be willing to commit for very little, if any, return over probably at least ten or more years... in the same way Abramovich has bankrolled Chelsea.

Agree with all of the above mate. What really irks me is that we do have board members who do have money but are unwilling to put a penny in.

Moyes steadied the ship, I think we could have qualified for 4th another two or three times if he was backed during the January windows. Martinez was close the first season and I felt we misses a trick not strengthening enough in the January window as 4th was there for the taking. Such small margins but you need a board who are pro active and willing to back the manager in real make or break situations and I don't think we've had that for a long long long time.

 

[sageyefc]

Methinks with WHP having gone quiet and seemingly off the radar, that it's a non-starter.

So maybe it's back to the drawing board and maybe the Edge Lane / old Littlewoods hq area ?

Mate its nothing to do with a location, they simply have no clue how to find the funding for one

 

[Bluesnapper]

Mate its nothing to do with a location, they simply have no clue how to find the funding for one

But that many clubs have gone through various scenarios re building a stadium then finding out the whys an wherefores shouldnt be a problem unless they dont want to do it.

That kills two birds with one stone no new stadium and the likelihood no new owners. Game, set and match.

 

[Neiler]

I am sure the blue union would be only to happy stand down if a co-ordinated group led by yourself was to step forward and lead them into the promised land.
You can slate the BU all you want but the fact is they are a group of supporters with know hidden agenda who just want to see the club competing with the best, they get very little thanks from fellow supporters just criticism.
They are trying to do something what are you doing?

I'm not engaging in an arguement on who the bigger blue or that the BU are better supporters then me because they are "doing something" - hacking emails, trampling on the good will of the chairman by leaking dialouge of their interview, personally I wouldn't get involved in anything featuring KEIOC after they tried to scare Kirkby residents by uploading engaged in football hooliganism online - if that's what you mean by something, I'll sit on my hands thanks, as I have a different set of values, ethics and morals on what it means to be an Evertoinan.

To be honest if the calibre of arguement is they are bigger blues because they want silverware and are doing something - don't deserve and never will attract strong skill skill sets or the quality of people to negotiate the issues and more importantly stratically innovate in regard to future planning which seems to me a massive gaping hole here.

 

[blueboy1945]

My immediate concern is in the present circumstances who is there to make the big decisions over transfers? Whether you are pro Kenwright or anti Kenwright he is obviously not well so someone else needs to take over the reigns.
That leaves Woods, Earl(PG) and Elstone,Elstone is just a puppet who can not make the big decisions on his own,Earl or Green have no interest in the club other than making a massive profit on there investment.If Green is actually the real owner of the shares I think we are in big trouble as the man is just an asset stripper who has history of going into companies bleeding them dry then closing them down.
That only leaves Woods who though being an Evertonian has showed no real interest in taking a more prominent roll.
The argument that better the devil you know rather than take on new owners doesnt really stack up as Im afraid we already have the worst type of owners that many people fear could take over.
I am not a Kenwright fan but god forbid anything happens to him I fear the future without him as it stands is a lot more worrying if the others are in control.

I think Jon Woods would take a much more hands on position if anything untoward has happened, or was likely to happen to Bill.
No true blue would let the club drift without proper leadership.....would they?

 

[Chang Elephant]

hacking emails

Serious allegation against Everton fans there. Do Celtic fans hate our support that much ?

trampling on the good will of the chairman by leaking dialouge of their interview

They reported on what was said as per the pre meeting agreement acknowledged by Mark Rowan.

No true blue would let the club drift without proper leadership.....would they?

It's been happening for 15 plus years now

 

[joey_macmo]

first you say this

'an aquaintance'? The Peoples Forum? Thats a bit like third hand information isn't it, or Chinese(!) whispers, even. The confirmation of direct evidence for those with an agenda. 'a friend of a friend of a friend' Ha Ha !!

then this

Source..directly to me by a media person closely connected with City hierarch at a charity event.

you've got to be taking the mick, nobody can reach those levels of irony in one post

 

[paultheblue]

I'm not engaging in an arguement on who the bigger blue or that the BU are better supporters then me because they are "doing something" - hacking emails, trampling on the good will of the chairman by leaking dialouge of their interview, personally I wouldn't get involved in anything featuring KEIOC after they tried to scare Kirkby residents by uploading engaged in football hooliganism online - if that's what you mean by something, I'll sit on my hands thanks, as I have a different set of values, ethics and morals on what it means to be an Evertoinan.

To be honest if the calibre of arguement is they are bigger blues because they want silverware and are doing something - don't deserve and never will attract strong skill skill sets or the quality of people to negotiate the issues and more importantly stratically innovate in regard to future planning which seems to me a massive gaping hole here.

I was not saying they were better Evertonians because they were prepared to question the party line, just supporters who deserve some respect for what they are trying to do in the absence of any other protest group.
Protest is not a dirty word and as for the leaking of the conversations between Kenwright and the fans group he was aware it would be passed on to rest of the fan base and why shouldnt it be?

 

[Bluesnapper]

I'm not engaging in an arguement on who the bigger blue or that the BU are better supporters then me because they are "doing something" - hacking emails, trampling on the good will of the chairman by leaking dialouge of their interview, personally I wouldn't get involved in anything featuring KEIOC after they tried to scare Kirkby residents by uploading engaged in football hooliganism online - if that's what you mean by something, I'll sit on my hands thanks, as I have a different set of values, ethics and morals on what it means to be an Evertoinan.

Hacking emails?

Serious allegations there.

Wonder if the esk has something to say about that?

 

[The Esk]

I'm not engaging in an arguement on who the bigger blue or that the BU are better supporters then me because they are "doing something" - hacking emails, trampling on the good will of the chairman by leaking dialouge of their interview, personally I wouldn't get involved in anything featuring KEIOC after they tried to scare Kirkby residents by uploading engaged in football hooliganism online - if that's what you mean by something, I'll sit on my hands thanks, as I have a different set of values, ethics and morals on what it means to be an Evertoinan.

To be honest if the calibre of arguement is they are bigger blues because they want silverware and are doing something - don't deserve and never will attract strong skill skill sets or the quality of people to negotiate the issues and more importantly stratically innovate in regard to future planning which seems to me a massive gaping hole here.

Mate, if you are making allegations of "hacking emails" publicly then you should be able to back it up with very convincing evidence or withdraw the remark.

As I said earlier in the week, all sides need to start looking forward, not backwards.

The common theme is change and that's what we should all be working towards, change either of the commercial performance so that the club can improve the playing squad (the minimum acceptable change) or change of ownership etc etc.

BU have a role to play, the key is (as it is with the Board) persuading them of the right strategy and tactics to bring change about.

 

[Bluesnapper]

Firstly the email were not hacked, they were leaked from within the club. An employee left/sacked/resigned following the leak.

Secondly one of the many supporters website publicised them.

 

[Neiler]

I'll withdraw the samantics, replace hack with leak - but hold the basic premise.