The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[dholliday]

Roberto's currently busy spending money from recent player sales, and from the TV money influx. The money is not owner backed investment, and not generated by commercial activity.

Anyone spinning this as a triumph of the board needs to take their head out of Bill's anus.

Do you have the figures that prove the Lukaku money isn't, at least partly, from owner-backed investment?

We got 28m for Fellaini last year, but spent most of it on Macca, Kone and others, plus the loanees had fees attached (Lukaku cost us around 3m, not including wages).


We've spent 32m on Besic and Lukaku, and invested in a heavily-impoved contract for Ross Barkley. We may yet still add to the squad.


This summer window is looking like a very healthy net spend, and even if we can explain the funds away by player sales and TV money, it can still be defined as partly "owner-backed". No board is obligated to spend their profits on player transfers.

 

[Christiffa25]

Rooney's new contract was headline news, as was Gerrards, yet when Everton attract wholesale media attention for Barkleys contract you class it as pants and lame ?
In my opinion it was a good bit of pr from the club.

Agreed and don't forgot this is also something done for the player Players enjoy there moments in the limelight, being the big news. As we don't want barkley's big moment and limelight being a presser signing for a new club, nice by the club to make Ross feel special as they should if they wanna keep him as long as possible!

 

[Steve Wigan]

Do you have the figures that prove the Lukaku money isn't, at least partly, from owner-backed investment?

I'm pretty sure that there has been no personal investment from the board...simply because I don't think its possible...Bills earnings are from his core business in the theatre, and while he is known to be very successful in his business, income is relative and the entertainment business is always financially very volatile. As far as football chairmen go, BK is not a rich man. Similarly, Earls 'investment' was in his mind the purchase of his shares from Gregg, and he was quite simply taking a punt on subsequent big profits from the DK retail park . The failure of DK has meant that he can only profit by selling his shares, and the price has to be right for him. I think Earls stance is one of the reasons it has proved difficult to sell the club(there are other reasons which have been debated often). Jon Woods has a reasonable personal fortune, having sold his video/computer games company, but again in terms of football club directors he is not particularly rich. I'm not ITK by any stretch, but it was once commented to me by a very reliable source, and well known name who would certainly know, that 'JW has more money than Bill and has been known to help Bill out'...now this may have been little more than a suggestion that JW invested in Bills shows, or it might have been something else. Another thing..'investment' by directors is usually in the form of a loan and given the (unproven) suggestions on here by some that the loan from the Virgin Islands is actually from Earl/Green(unlikely the latter) does that count as investment from the board? I doubt it personally, even if Earl has interests in the Cayman/Virgin Islands the company involved is in the business of loaning to football clubs in general.

 

[Groucho]

Does it matter where the money has come from? Fact is, they appear to be backing Martinez.

We can't just go out and buy Messi, we have to graduate up to that.

One step at a time blues.

 

[Elong]

Does it matter where the money has come from? Fact is, they appear to be backing Martinez.

We can't just go out and buy Messi, we have to graduate up to that.

One step at a time blues.

Of course it does mate, that's the key point to the argument for most fans who expect a board to stump up with more of their own investment or sell the club to someone who can.

It's the most important point going!

 

[Groucho]

Of course it does mate, that's the key point to the argument for most fans who expect a board to stump up with more of their own investment or sell the club to someone who can.

It's the most important point going!

I get that, in fact I think Kenwright gets a lot of stick that should be aimed towards the rest of the board.

The board as a whole should stump up, otherwise what's the point of them being on the board?

On the other hand, we have just signed Lukaku!!!

 

[Elong]

I get that, in fact I think Kenwright gets a lot of stick that should be aimed towards the rest of the board.

The board as a whole should stump up, otherwise what's the point of them being on the board?

On the other hand, we have just signed Lukaku!!!

Completely agree. Kenwright gets the most of it as he's the chairman, the face of the board, but I personally don't hold him fully responsible by any stretch. He's the poorest member of the board isn't he?

It irks me that we still have no investment into our club, over the last 12 months we're still about breaking even in the transfer market.

 

[Groucho]

Completely agree. Kenwright gets the most of it as he's the chairman, the face of the board, but I personally don't hold him fully responsible by any stretch. He's the poorest member of the board isn't he?

It irks me that we still have no investment into our club, over the last 12 months we're still about breaking even in the transfer market.

I think he's the least well off and gets most of the stick but that comes with the territory I suppose.

Hasn't Jon Wood got more money than Abramovich? Someone/something like that.

I suppose my point was, perhaps things are changing regarding spending, with Martinez etc....

 

[Elong]

I think he's the least well off and gets most of the stick but that comes with the territory I suppose.

I suppose my point was, perhaps things are changing regarding spending, with Martinez etc....

I hope so. There's a lot of money to be spent yet to change my opinion though, and we haven't got through the transfer window without selling someone yet!

Not trying to sound gloomy or anything, but it does seem to come with being an Evertonian lol

 

[kithnou]

last seasons tv money and this years means the club got £28 million extra on top of what they were getting , add to that a reduced wage bill and 40 million in player sales , the increase from the chang sponsership and the prize money from finishing 5th , i dont think the amount the board has paid out so far this summer is that much of a miracle.
financially we should be quite good now and no longer making millions in losses each season.

if times got tough we now have some great assets in rom barkley coleman stones mirallas mccarthy and id imagine besic will be there too soon (normally we would only have 1 or 2 high sale assetts) and i imagine a few youngsters still coming through from 16 years + who potentially could be 'the next big things'.

regardless of the past and the boards mistakes , its all good in the hood.
that is apart from one thing , and thats the stadium. thats the biggest issue this club has draged its heels on for far too long and i cant wait till its sorted.

As much I as I love Goodison, I am resigned to the fact that only then will we get sold, and sold to a Moneybags owner

 

[Moomin]

You know far more than me about these things...the only gangs in the US I've ever heard of are The Sharks and The Jets.........

You could tell the Sharks and Jets were not real Americans though, they used knives instead of guns.

 

[flibbyflob]

All we can do now is wait till the window closes. If no big player is sold then it is a great window and well done to all at the club from board to manager. If we sell someone and reinvest the money then it is a great window. We just have to wait and see.

 

[Steve Wigan]

You could tell the Sharks and Jets were not real Americans though, they used knives instead of guns.

Yes..but they used knives against knives, they never took a knife to a gunfight........

 

[dholliday]

I'm pretty sure that there has been no personal investment from the board...simply because I don't think its possible...Bills earnings are from his core business in the theatre, and while he is known to be very successful in his business, income is relative and the entertainment business is always financially very volatile. As far as football chairmen go, BK is not a rich man. Similarly, Earls 'investment' was in his mind the purchase of his shares from Gregg, and he was quite simply taking a punt on subsequent big profits from the DK retail park . The failure of DK has meant that he can only profit by selling his shares, and the price has to be right for him. I think Earls stance is one of the reasons it has proved difficult to sell the club(there are other reasons which have been debated often). Jon Woods has a reasonable personal fortune, having sold his video/computer games company, but again in terms of football club directors he is not particularly rich. I'm not ITK by any stretch, but it was once commented to me by a very reliable source, and well known name who would certainly know, that 'JW has more money than Bill and has been known to help Bill out'...now this may have been little more than a suggestion that JW invested in Bills shows, or it might have been something else. Another thing..'investment' by directors is usually in the form of a loan and given the (unproven) suggestions on here by some that the loan from the Virgin Islands is actually from Earl/Green(unlikely the latter) does that count as investment from the board? I doubt it personally, even if Earl has interests in the Cayman/Virgin Islands the company involved is in the business of loaning to football clubs in general.

Nice one for the considered non-agenda-driven reply, Steve.

 

[Moomin]

All we can do now is wait till the window closes. If no big player is sold then it is a great window and well done to all at the club from board to manager. If we sell someone and reinvest the money then it is a great window. We just have to wait and see.

Well done to BSKYB for giving us so much money, if only we could improve our own commercial revenues.

Come on SKY, build us a new stadium.