Blue_Eagle
Player Valuation: £6m
Wouldn't have happened mate, Dave gets sea sick...
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I read it as him talking about the current situation Everton finds itself with a billionaire owner who doesnt attend games etc. Its a short article and definitely could expanded on, for example the reality that Newcastle were in. A similar situation in terms of atrocious corporate management.
It's not a plucky Everton pat on the head either. I think its a fair, if very brief, article overall.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It is what it is football. That does not underline the views of that Guardian writer though.
He WANTS there to be an elite that no one breaks into.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It's not a win that a journalist who has previous for talking down to Everton patronised a handful of fans....and it wasn't exactly a take down of the Everton board really was it?
It was a vehicle piece for him to set up his stall about the elite being the elite again. He's a verbose lazy arse hack who has turned to the Everton crisis in order to fill a few column inches.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Eh?Ahhh Dave.... wouldn't have expected you of all people to rail on a Guardian writer regardless of the context lol
If you think Ilm a fan of that paper you have it all wrong.
Interesting talk and a Twitter space last night. I’m sure a few on here listened to it. Ex-commercial director of Everton came on and gave a bit of insight into the workings of the club.
He said he did the Chang deal which brought in an extra £2 million when the club was desperate for cash. Said he came in the next day and Bill had blown the cash on Franny Jeffers who Moyes didn’t even want and never played him. Said Bill had a habit of doing things of his own back.
Also said Denise is badly out of her depth at Premier League meetings as she has no really knowledge of football. All of the other clubs have people with footballing knowledge running them.
He then said he was forced to quit by Bill due to backing Paul Greggs takeover and not supporting Kenwright.
He said he did the Chang deal which brought in an extra £2 million when the club was desperate for cash. Said he came in the next day and Bill had blown the cash on Franny Jeffers who Moyes didn’t even want and never played him. Said Bill had a habit of doing things of his own back.
Also said Denise is badly out of her depth at Premier League meetings as she has no really knowledge of football. All of the other clubs have people with footballing knowledge running them.
He then said he was forced to quit by Bill due to backing Paul Greggs takeover and not supporting Kenwright.
COYB75
Player Valuation: £5m
Fair enough, but even if he is happy with the status quo he is right that the only way to break in to it is with Oil Tanker loads of cash. That cosy elite are now getting a royal rogering now from Newcastle. He must be fuming at their audacity and we can only hope that Everton can add to his fume by finding our own cash cow and also smash our way in to that closed shop.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
Don't the other clubs know they'd do so much better if they had someone local who supports the club??
Well they do ask themselves what would Everton do.
JLW
Player Valuation: £60m
That’s big Bill for ye, the root cause of this clubs demise
Toffe3m4n
Player Valuation: £80m
Lobster Johnson
Player Valuation: £35m
Strong 2017 "The chairman, owner, director of football and manager have all signed their own favourite number 10" vibes.
A bit of a long read this, but, worth the effort I think...
Everton protests are not about money, they are about hope
Fans have vented their frustration with banners and asked the players to show passion, but what will their efforts achieve?
PROTEST: Everton fans hold up banners in protest against the clubs board after the Premier League match at Goodison Park, between Everton and Southampton. Pic: Peter Byrne/PA Wire
TUE, 17 JAN, 2023 - 10:45
JONATHAN LIEW
I’ve been particularly enjoying the protest banners. Everton is a furious club right now, its fans and its ownership in open warfare, a mixture of rage and desperation and powerlessness. And yet for some reason all this anger seems to express itself in perfect, playful rhyming couplets. “Everton were magic, Kenwright is tragic.” “A football giant owned by a clown, all you’ll achieve is taking us down.” “A chairman who won’t let go, an under-qualified CEO.”
Only Everton fans, you feel, can capture an existential cry for help with the levity of a child’s nursery rhyme. I don’t propose to analyse the metre and scansion of the Everton banners in too much detail, but on some level I wonder whether the jauntiness of the medium is a subconscious counterpoint to the opacity and obfuscation of the Everton board, with their woolly “Official Statements”, their anonymous briefings to favoured journalists, the intentionally imprecise messaging. You put out your press releases. We bring poetry.
The natural instinct amongst many rival fans, and even some voices in the media, has been to poke fun at Everton’s plight, chide their sense of legacy entitlement, deride their supporter base as delusional, demented, perhaps even dangerous. And as with any mass protest movement – and not to equate the aims of Just Stop Oil or Black Lives Matter with, say, the underwhelming signing of Neal Maupay in the summer – the focus invariably shifts towards the methods of protest rather than the substance of the protest itself.
After the 2-1 defeat to Southampton on Saturday – a game the board did not attend citing vague and unspecified safety concerns – a small group of fans surrounded the cars of Anthony Gordon and Yerry Mina as they tried to leave Goodison Park. A little unsavoury, but essentially harmless. Perhaps this is why Mina, who grew up amid the barras bravas of Colombian football and has presumably seen much worse, looked so calm as he stepped out of his car to talk to fans and listen to their concerns. “Show us a bit of heart,” one fan urges him. “All we want is passion. Show us a bit of passion. Start speaking up, lad, show them you’re the man.”
There was a touching and curiously human quality to the whole exchange, one that really strikes at the heart of what Everton fans are really angry about. Because at its heart, this is not a protest about net spends or sporting directors or even league form. It’s about hope and connection, the forlorn and obsolescent idea that a football club can still be an expression of its people, that those who run and administer it can still want the same things they do.
What do Everton fans want? And can modern football even provide it? “The fans expect the best,” reads another banner. Nil satis nisi optimum, the club motto from which one of the main protest groups takes its name, means “nothing but the best is good enough”. You see the problem here. Everton had for a time one of Europe’s best young strikers in Romelu Lukaku. Manchester United bought him for £75m. They had one of the world’s finest managers in Carlo Ancelotti. Real Madrid took him. Gordon had half a good season before Chelsea started making eyes at him. What do we think happens to Amadou Onana if he starts tearing up the Premier League? Or Ben Godfrey? Or Nathan Patterson?
And these were the good decisions. But outside the game’s VIP circle nothing good can ever last. For fans of smaller clubs, perhaps you make your peace with this fact sooner rather than later. But those one level removed from the elite, your West Hams and Aston Villas and Hamburgs and Sampdorias, are essentially trapped in a doom cycle from which there are only really two escapes: relegation or an autocratic benefactor. This isn’t entitlement. It is simply the howl of a club and fanbase that, whether they make the right choices or the wrong choices, will simply never be allowed to grow.
One of the interesting elements of this protest is how young the banner-wavers and slogan-shouters are. They’re mostly young men in their 20s and 30s, some even younger. These guys aren’t high on nostalgia. They’re not pining for the days of Sharp and Sheedy. But they are slowly realising, perhaps for the first time, that the dream that was sold to them no longer exists, at least not for them. The game they were bequeathed by their parents, a thing of romance and aspiration, has been sold off and converted into crypto.
There will be no trophies. There will be no famous Champions League nights at Bramley-Moore Dock. You will not get to see the world’s finest players in an Everton shirt. You do not even get the giddy underdog rise through the divisions like fans of Brighton or Brentford or Wigan. Your owner is a billionaire who will never speak to you or attend a game, and if he wants to run the ship aground there is not a damn thing you can do about it. No matter how loudly you sing, no matter how many blue smoke canisters you let off, the limit of your ambition will always be top seven and occasionally signing someone promising from Burnley.
Or, to put it in terms with which Everton fans will perhaps be more familiar:
THREE DECADES OF FINANCIAL STRATIFICATION
HAVE MADE IT HARDER TO FIND GRATIFICATION
A REVIVAL OF EVERTON’S SUCCESS ON THE PITCH
WILL FOREVER BE THWARTED BY THE SUPER RICH
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