The Everton Board Thread

[degsy]

Yes but our problem is he isn't doing that, if he had of stayed out of the day to day running there is zero chance we would be in this mess, Kenwright has a proven track record of stability

Nah, sorry mate the only track record Kenwright has is being less worse than Moshiri for a longer period.
It's a bit like this...

Kenwright; 25yrs X 4.0 crap = 100% crap
Moshiri; 7yrs X 14.286 crap = 100% crap

 

[degsy]

“Our strategy is underpinned by the culture of the Club, characterised by the core values of Ambition, Authenticity, Determination and Family and the behaviours defined in line with those values.”

The above phrase caught my attention. I am intrigued about how the core value of ´Authenticity’ makes anyone better at their job and how ‘authentic’ club officials/employees at various levels are in their daily work!!
Also regarding ‘family’; best person for the job or ‘best person who is already part of the club?’
What ‘behaviours’ do those values lead to?

Are these core values our new motto????? We’re going to need a bigger badge!!!

Legacy was already taken and The Peoples Club was deemed old hat

 

[Simon Buttle]

Nah, sorry mate the only track record Kenwright has is being less worse than Moshiri for a longer period.
It's a bit like this...

Kenwright; 25yrs X 4.0 crap = 100% crap
Moshiri; 7yrs X 14.286 crap = 100% crap

Even then there are variables that come into it which matey seems to forget/ignore. Back when we were under Kenwright/Moyes the league had a totally different dynamic about it. It was only a top 4 fighting it out whereas these days it's pretty much a top 7. The large amounts of money were only really at a handful of clubs whereas now there are mega wealthy owners at the top and bottom of the league. The influence of foreign club structures and the way they do things ie the DoF/head coach structure more micro manage allowing more player centred focus rather than one 'manager' being in control of everything. I actually find the whole Kewnright vs Moshiri argument a bit silly as they have operated in different eras of the game imo. Both have made a pigs ear of things in their own way and for various reasons and both need to be relieved of their duties/positions.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Most of those left the club "years" ago and our wage last accounts was the highest its ever been.

Be very interested to see the latest accounts, which have to be published before the end of March and which Everton have sat on for the last 11months.

That what I don’t get how isn’t it getting lower ?

 

[allezlesbleus]

Are you sure about that?

Baxendale has been here since 2018. Kenwright decades. Its not worked yet.

https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/authenticity-examples
Judge for yourself!!

Just to be clear, I posted my comment in the first place in the spirit of what’s this all about?
When I looked it up I could see it was the sort of stuff that organisations probably go through on staff training days etc and, to be fair, although most of us probably find it to be a waste of time, it’s just staff development stuff - big deal, so what!

But the specific examples I mentioned in my second post to you are listed and obviously they are qualities that supporters of the protests would say are in rather short supply at the upper echelons of the club and that’s where the opinions will come in.
That said, if the club is going to mention these things in communication with the FAB or wider fan base, they should be prepared to take comment on how well their actions and decisions measure up to their stated values.

The only values I want them to espouse are Nil Satis Nisi Optimum, a winning mentality from top to bottom of the club and ask themselves whether every action and decision is leading to points and wins on the pitch. The ‘softer stuff’ can still happen, of course. But it is secondary to striving to be the best and winning football matches.

 

[degsy]

Even then there are variables that come into it which matey seems to forget/ignore. Back when we were under Kenwright/Moyes the league had a totally different dynamic about it. It was only a top 4 fighting it out whereas these days it's pretty much a top 7. The large amounts of money were only really at a handful of clubs whereas now there are mega wealthy owners at the top and bottom of the league. The influence of foreign club structures and the way they do things ie the DoF/head coach structure more micro manage allowing more player centred focus rather than one 'manager' being in control of everything. I actually find the whole Kewnright vs Moshiri argument a bit silly as they have operated in different eras of the game imo. Both have made a pigs ear of things in their own way and for various reasons and both need to be relieved of their duties/positions.

Don't over think it, keep it simple, both 100% crap over various years in different ways
Lowest common denominator...100% crap

 

[allezlesbleus]

Legacy was already taken and The Peoples Club was deemed old hat

Authenticity FC … that has got a certain ring to it!!

 

[Lapeno77]

That what I don’t get how isn’t it getting lower ?

Because while they were here, their wages set the bar. And all the others would have demanded parity or something approaching parity .
England's no 1 will be getting paid. Coleman has had how many renewals?

 

[Ferguson1878]

Because while they were here, their wages set the bar. And all the others would have demanded parity or something approaching parity .
England's no 1 will be getting paid. Coleman has had how many

All Wev heard though past couple
Of seasons is how a few big earners are out of contract in the summer and it doesent seem
To have made any difference i think moshiri just doesn’t want to spend anymore money

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

All Wev heard though past couple
Of seasons is how a few big earners are out of contract in the summer and it doesent seem
To have made any difference i think moshiri just doesn’t want to spend anymore money

I agree mate. I think he's lost all interest and my uneducated guess is that's because his buddy has been sanctioned and he was simply warming the seat for him until the stadium was built. That well has dried up now and he doesn't want to dip his hand into his own pockets - hence looking for investment in the short term, and aim to sell once the stadium is finished. Given our current plight the stadium is the only thing that might save his investment.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Was Ian Ross wasn’t it ?

That was the fella who was Ment to have had a account of blue kipper I always remembered he had a mad second name

 

[StreetEndBlue]

I like Greg personally, or at least don't mind him, but he was played like an absolute fiddle by Prentice over that rubbish headlock story. Was told of heinous allegations being made against supporters by his ex-boss and then published them without doing any investigate work at all. A rookie mistake by a supposed seasoned journalist. Rather than focusing on learning the lesson itself though (to never trust anything the Everton board feed you) he acted like a sulking toddler and started blocking people who were giving him (mostly) justified stick. Obviously there was a couple of cranks, it's twitter FFS, but he threw a massive pity party for himself rather than hold his hands up. Was a bit arl arse for Paddy Boyland, the other EFC writer for the Athletic, because he caught some of the blow back also when it was nothing to do with him.

The overall sticking point from that episode for me though is what a horrible rat Prentice outed himself as. Being an idiot Kenwright loyalist is one thing, but using a former colleague, and supposed friend, the way he did to get despicable lies published on a well-known and trusted platform? What a lovely sounding fella.

Deserves to be lumped in with the rest of them, never welcome at Goodison ever again.

Bang on. I just hope when we get new owners one the of the first things they do is boot Prentice's arse out of the club. Lets be honest he brown nosed his way to a job at Goodison. Had he not sucked up Kenwright backside when at the Echo he'd have never had got the cushy number he's got now.

His role in the smearing of the fans should never be forgotten or forgiven. Never liked the slimy gobshite anyway.

 

[Damo_1878]

https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/authenticity-examples
Judge for yourself!!

Just to be clear, I posted my comment in the first place in the spirit of what’s this all about?
When I looked it up I could see it was the sort of stuff that organisations probably go through on staff training days etc and, to be fair, although most of us probably find it to be a waste of time, it’s just staff development stuff - big deal, so what!

But the specific examples I mentioned in my second post to you are listed and obviously they are qualities that supporters of the protests would say are in rather short supply at the upper echelons of the club and that’s where the opinions will come in.
That said, if the club is going to mention these things in communication with the FAB or wider fan base, they should be prepared to take comment on how well their actions and decisions measure up to their stated values.

The only values I want them to espouse are Nil Satis Nisi Optimum, a winning mentality from top to bottom of the club and ask themselves whether every action and decision is leading to points and wins on the pitch. The ‘softer stuff’ can still happen, of course. But it is secondary to striving to be the best and winning football matches.

I would change the word "stuff" to "fluff"

Because that is all Bill Kenwright and Denise Barrett-Baxendale have ever come out with. Fluff.

There is absolutely no 'authenticity' there. None.

It's all about stifling opposition and criticism and pushing out their own false narratives

This is going back decades for Kenwright. Baxendale has embraced that whole heartedly.

The reference to the "MBE" as some sort of qualification for the CEO role was embarrassing. An 'appeal to authority'. Where none exists. The MBE was awarded for nothing to do with business. Indeed she has persistently sought self publicity since her arrival

'Business awards' not for actual business and honorary degrees and titles and the like.

Even when Everton Football Club is under a legitimate and real crisis. Premier League restrictions being an example

People are no longer fooled by it all

The only authenticity Denise Barrett-Baxendale has is she is an authentic self publicity seeker. Like Bill Kenwright

 

[Goat]

That what I don’t get how isn’t it getting lower ?

Cos people are like "YAY, we got rid of Iceland and his wages", meanwhile we cant score goals and Andre Gomes picks up the same amount while playing in France for somebody else.

But if it doesnt go down in the next accounts published some serious questions need asking.

 

[Damo_1878]

Cos people are like "YAY, we got rid of Iceland and his wages", meanwhile we cant score goals and Andre Gomes picks up the same amount while playing in France for somebody else.

But if it doesnt go down in the next accounts published some serious questions need asking.

In the March 2023 accounts for 21/22 ww are right on the edge of P&S limits

Next year looks better due to the Gordon sale. I suspect the none spend or severe limits in January was so they could say to Premier League, things are improving in the T+1 and T+2 years they have to give the Premier League

Thing is their 'improvement' has been catastrophic for the fans & shareholders

It's 28 years since the last trophy and we are not Bill Kenwright's play thing. Nor is his arrogant self presumptuous claims of being 'the club' appropriate either

Sooner he is gone the better