The Friedkin Group reaches agreement to buy Everton

[Dr Baxter]

Making us competitive enough to challenge for the top 6 (or whatever it's called now) and maybe get a few cups along the way and we'll be fine imo.

They probably want us to compete in Europe in some capacity in the next 4-5 years, and the quicker way is either be very good in the league or win a cup of some sort, so...

Just win most of our home games and send me to the pub happy.

 

[Toffeepot]

It'd be lovely simply not to be a car crash.

Even sitting mid-table with genuine hopes of making Europe or winning a cup, rather than enduring the nosebleed glass ceiling that we have imposed on ourselves over the last 30 years.

Imagine making a cup semi-final with a manager and team that could genuinely compete for that trophy against any opposition. We're not demanding league titles - but surely we should aspire to winning pots when the chance arises.

No more 'expected losses' would be nice. Genuinely trying to win every game and believing it's possible

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

You deserve to be fleeced for your pathetic order.

Dave defo orders a fillet o fish burger. Anythings better than Moshiri at this point.

 

[milks]

Fat chance. He's bought a show pony and will want to be seen with it at as many gymkhana's as he can.

We aren't a show pony. We're a knackered old Shetland he's saved from the glue factory.

 

[davek]

Whether the point is moot or not is in itself moot. You are the one heralding head-choppers as the ideal future for Everton, so your comedy pantomime opposition to the new shower is performative entertainment. Fair play.

As for decline of working-class attendance, that's the inevitable outcome of this club attempting to compete with its erstwhile peers. Evertonians have a choice: compete or die. Competing will, inevitably, mean higher prices for tickets, etc. Working-class attendance has been in decline around the entire country since the onset of the Premier League. Even the price of a ticket at Everton - what, 58 quid or something - is no longer tailored to "working-class" people. It's a discretionary spend aimed at middle-class wallets. This is the outcome of Philip Carter's breakaway in 1992. We just didn't have the gumption to follow through with our greed and spent 30 years in a sentiment-infused mausoleum rather than doing what we always did: lead and compete.

Either way, we're no longer living in the 1970s. It's a globalised game now - as can be seen by the nationalities of the players on the pitch - and the choice is no longer, sadly, between working-class prices and middle-class prices. It's between the likes of the Friedkins and the head choppers. Pick your poison, but don't pretend some Sheikh is a socialist.

Unless we decide the German model is the way to go - with fan ownership at the forefront. Good luck selling that to Brexit Britain.

Yeah. Ok. All I'm reading is a justification for fleecing people to hand a free pass to a new owner.

As I said above, we'll see how long the honeymoon lasts...not much longer than for the season ticket prices to drop through people's doors I suspect.

They did the same at Roma.

 

[Neiler]

Welcome to Everton Stadium McDonalds:

'May I take your order sir?'

'Yes, I'll have a chicken big mac and Americano'

'That'll be just £45, sir. Have a nice day'


Utterly fleeced. Accept the Spiv future.

Would say your spot on mate, costs are going to rise for fans but always were at BMD - it’s something I’ve thought for a long time.

We have a weird relationship with this - Everton fans:

“We need to raise commercial revenue, in line with other top clubs”

Also Everton fans.

“I’m not paying that, price gouging”.

 

[Toffeepot]

Fat chance. He's bought a show pony and will want to be seen with it at as many gymkhana's as he can.

I'll say one thing for you davek, you have great positional sense. You know exactly where you want to be before the game has even started

 

[Goodisongang]

Yeah. Ok. All I'm reading is a justification for fleecing people to hand a free pass to a new owner.

As I said above, we'll see how long the honeymoon lasts...not much longer than for the season ticket prices to drop through people's doors I suspect.

They did the same at Roma.

Dave the season tickets have gone up in the last few years anyway, and rightly so being honest, didnt we have the cheapest in the prem a few years ago and held for about 8 years?

now with the new stadium coming they will probably go up again, i dont think people will mind paying more if they are getting some joy out of it.

 

[Neiler]

Fat chance. He's bought a show pony and will want to be seen with it at as many gymkhana's as he can.

The name of the game I think for these lads will be making 3 and half times their investment mate.

That will be the overall objective, think they will as well.

Not sure they are ones for a high profile.

 

[jerseytoffee]

Yeah. Ok. All I'm reading is a justification for fleecing people to hand a free pass to a new owner.

As I said above, we'll see how long the honeymoon lasts...not much longer than for the season ticket prices to drop through people's doors I suspect.

They did the same at Roma.

Didn't they keep season ticket prices low which has resulted in there average crowds almost doubling during their ownership?

 

[milks]

I’d be one of his big critics - but I genuinely think Moshiri did us a solid here, I believe the Textor offer was better financially for him.

But TFG deal was better for the club. He went with the club.

Seems like this TFG deal is the only way to wrap up all of the assorted [Poor language removed] that has been caused by the 777 deal, the shonky loans and Moshiri's general apathy. If Moshiri has had to take a bath to ensure that he can walk away now and not protract the whole thing even further, then so be it.

 

[Drico]

Yeah. Ok. All I'm reading is a justification for fleecing people to hand a free pass to a new owner.

As I said above, we'll see how long the honeymoon lasts...not much longer than for the season ticket prices to drop through people's doors I suspect.

They did the same at Roma.

I agree - prices will rise. I am not a season ticket holder, so I need to declare that. But what I will say is people cannot demand a sparkling new world-class stadium and a team to compete at the top end of the league on Bill Kenwright's Boys' Pen prices. Obviously, the magnitude of the increase is what is key here - but rise they definitely will.

If we want working-class prices (and I do), then we must follow the German model. But people in England don't want that, so this is the inevitable outcome.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Would say your spot on mate, costs are going to rise for fans but always were at BMD - it’s something I’ve thought for a long time.

We have a weird relationship with this - Everton fans:

“We need to raise commercial revenue, in line with other top clubs”

Also Everton fans.

“I’m not paying that, price gouging”.

There’s also value for money though mate as well, not many fans have been put threw the ringer like evertonains they’d have a cheek to start charging Chelsea prices for the privilege

 

[milks]

Freidkin trades with those regimes. So your point is moot.

But ok, let's see how fans react to the stadium seat prices and the charges from vendors at the new stadium.

The era of working class attendance at Everton games is going to be hurtling toward an end now.

Dave, that was always happening. Be the club owned by Friedkin, Moshiri, Textor, Qataris or any other shonky owners who may have thrown their hand in.

 

[Neiler]

Seems like this TFG deal is the only way to wrap up all of the assorted [Poor language removed] that has been caused by the 777 deal, the shonky loans and Moshiri's general apathy. If Moshiri has had to take a bath to ensure that he can walk away now and not protract the whole thing even further, then so be it.

I’d be far from defending him, however, he had a choice to make more money personally with Textor vs a deal wi5 less for him and greater investment in the club - he went with the latter - so while id be one of his biggest critics you’d have to say fair play.