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The Moyes legacy: reflections.

Any regret on being anti Moyes?


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It was good whilst he was here (looking back at it) and comparing it to some of the dross that has been served up since. Honestly, how many at the time he was here would have said "I got my Everton back and this is brilliant"
 
Don't particularly see why his time here marks such reflection, other than the length of tenure and decline that has occurred since.

Moyes did not have money to spend, but he did get the even more valuable commodity to a manager - time.

He pulled us out of mediocrity in relative terms but it shouldn't be forgotten we did finish 17th under him also. He wouldn't have survived that today, right or wrong.

I never particularly felt that we were going to break into the Top 4 at any point and the drop-off in form and results would always follow in April/May

Almost every time there was something riding on a game, Moyes' teams didn't show up.

Granted, its a world away from the situation we face now but that shouldn't serve to embellish the assessment of his time as manager.
 
I never demanded his departure when he was here but after those 2 derbies in 2012 I'd had enough of him and wasn't arsed when he left.

Would've been interesting to see what he might have done with Moshiri's wealth to play with, but his record since leaving us shows it's far from guaranteed he'd have been successful.
 
We reached a ceiling with Moyes. He kept us stable and there or thereabouts but we were never going to progress from there. Your club shouldn't go to pot as soon as David Moyes leaves ffs.

It's those at the very top who've made bad decision after bad decision who're to blame. The root cause could be pointed back to Steve Walsh and Ronald Koeman, they wrecked financial ruin on this club and along with Moshiri & Bill have been absolute poison.
 

Of course, he was a good manager, but he didn't care less about Everton's long-term future.

He protected Kenwright from the fans, to the point of championing a stadium that would have killed the club, all the while taking plaudits for working under the financial constraints that we wanted to put an end to.

In short, he fell in love with how big he looked standing next to little Everton.
 
I wonder if Moyes looks back in hindsight at leaving us. Utd job was a hiding to nothing and if he had been in charge with Moshiris money he would have spent wisely. We will never know I guess.
Thing is, he didn't know we would have a tonne of cash in a few years. I bet we could have won the league, or at least come close, if Moyes had all those resources to add to a stable squad of solid professionals.
 
We reached a ceiling with Moyes. He kept us stable and there or thereabouts but we were never going to progress from there. Your club shouldn't go to pot as soon as David Moyes leaves ffs.

It's those at the very top who've made bad decision after bad decision who're to blame. The root cause could be pointed back to Steve Walsh and Ronald Koeman, they wrecked financial ruin on this club and along with Moshiri & Bill have been absolute poison.

The ceiling was the club. Not Moyes. We had Anichebe, Vellios and a crap Jelavic as our only strikers in his final season for example.
 
The ceiling was the club. Not Moyes. We had Anichebe, Vellios and a crap Jelavic as our only strikers in his final season for example.
Yup. Do people honestly think he would have left had it not been for the fact he couldn't sign players he wanted to push us higher? Pretty sure he couldn't even sign players at times we were so rooked.
 

Somewhere else in the cosmos is a version of us where Moshiri arrived before Davey's departure.

We signed Moutinho, Yarmalenko and Costa and established ourselves in the top 4
 
Don't think we had a chance of keeping moyes when United came calling really.

What he showed is, that sticking with the manager when they finish 17th can help create consistency and stability for many years to come. So it's in Franks hands now.

Moyes was waiting for a shot at a top job ever since he turned up at Everton, he just never had a sniff of one until Ferguson weirdly chose him to replace him.
 

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